I'm thinking about what you bring up here, and considering how violence is bad.
On Wed, Oct 14, 2020, 10:01 PM Karl <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2020, 9:54 PM Zenaan Harkness <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 09:42:34PM -0400, Karl wrote: >> > On Wed, Oct 14, 2020, 9:34 PM Zenaan Harkness <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 08:24:15PM -0400, Karl wrote: >> > > > I want to try not-trump because of feminism, environmentalism, >> community >> > > > power (he's a rich businessman), social justice, etc. I have >> reasons for >> > > > all those things too. >> > > >> > > Karl, to what degree do you see that "social justice" has been >> co-opted >> > > into destruction of (often black/minority) businesses by literally >> burning >> > > their buildings to the ground, hate campaigns against "Whitie", and >> other >> > > destructive and pointless things? >> > > >> > >> > I've heard of the white thing for some years but never been exposed to >> it >> > myself. >> > >> > How do you feel when a business is burned? As an anarchist, I feel >> kinda >> > happy at first. Then I feel really sad when I think of the owner >> > discovering it, and how they might feel. >> >> Well at least there's a common ground for dialog. >> >> Do you recall seeing the ~80 year old man beaten to the ground, nearly >> unconscious, by the BLM / ANTIFA mob in Kenosha, when all this really old >> guy did was try and put out the fire in his mattress store, this business >> he had presumably spent decades running? Can we agree that great harm was >> done to this old man? >> > > I haven't seen it; it sounds like it's really shocking and infuriating to > see? Same was of course true of the many people killed by the police this > year. > > Zenaan, when you talk it often sounds like someone paid for it. You don't > contribute anything technical to this list these days. I would like to let > someone else speak. > > But you're good if you can share some emotion about it with me. > > >> >> > I don't see the word "co-opted" as appropriate, until maybe this year. >> > >> > I'd really like to learn your values. Mine would simplify from the >> > buzzwords I stated, to reducing harm that I am aware of. >> >
