On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 07:54:06PM -0300, Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote: > On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 07:48:29 +1000 > [email protected] wrote: > > > On 2020-10-31 06:23, Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote: > > > On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 15:01:14 -0400 > > > grarpamp <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > >> "Open borders to all, teach Islam in schools -- Joe Biden" > > > > > > > > > of course open borders (no state borders) is one of the most basic > > > libertarian positions. > > > > > > Notice that BatSoup, though theoretically opposed to the security > > agencies spying on us, demonizes Snowden, > > I don't demonize snowden, I simply see him as an 'ex' US military > criminal, 'ex' CIA criminal and 'ex' NSA criminal. Likewise, I see > his 'revelations' as barely revealing anything new and having caused > little to no harm to his government. Something that snowden himself > keeps repeating.
Snowden wants to return to America. It's true that what he did appears to have damaged him more than the Empire. We ought allow people to change - especially when it is in a positive direction, and so "forever naming" someone's negative past, though factual, may reduce support for their positive change. There is a balance where sometimes "acknowledgement" of someone's positives, -especially- if these positives are in the face of a negative past, may help sustain those positives - yes, the man that requires external acks has a bit to learn but hey, when trying to improve our shared world, we work with what we got, right? > > fails to mention that security > > agencies, trained and organized to spread disinformation that overthrows > > foreign governments, are industriously spreading disinformation to > > overthrow the American government and prevent democracy. > > you're saying that the CIA (that is the US govt) is trying to overthrow > the US govt? The US govt is trying to overthrow itself? Sounds confused... > > > > prevent democracy. > > and that last bit...WUT? Now you're a 'democrat'? I thought you hated > democrats? By definition right wingers are pro-monarchy and anti-democracy. I > guess you're a lefty now?
