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Am 3/13/21 um 4:33 AM schrieb potlatch: > To put a little meat on the bone of this situation, I did not receive an > email from PayPal--I was informed that I was banned when I tried to make a > payment for VPS hosting. During the week before this ban, I had sent funds > to both Flokinet for an exit relay in Finland and to ITLDC.com for VPS > hosting in Poland--both exit relays. I used the PayPal support email to ask > for the reason I was banned and to ask for re-instatement. I have heard > nothing back. > > I had surmised that someone was monitoring payments to off-shore hosting > companies and maybe they assumed I was supporting a news agency--I don't know > really. If that is the case, why haven't the hosting sites been banned as > well? > > The message in my PayPal account referred to a violation of the user > agreement. Here is the full text of the message: > > -We're unable to continue offering our services > -Thank you for using PayPal as your payment partner. > > -Unfortunately, we are unable to continue offering our services -to you at > this time due to the nature of your business and/or -activity in your account > and the risk it poses to PayPal. This -decision can't be overturned. > > -If you owe refunds to any of your buyers, you can use the money -in your > PayPal account to refund them. > > -Money in your PayPal account will be held for 180 days. After -180 days, > we'll email you information on how to withdraw your -money. > > > The only transactions on this account over the past 3-months were VPS lease > payments off-shore. I looked up the user agreement to determine where I had > violated the rules and found only a single reference to operating servers: > > -Service Requiring Pre-Approval: > -Providing file sharing services or access to newsgroups; or -selling > alcoholic beverages, non-cigarette tobacco products, --e-cigarettes or > prescription drugs/devices. > > I have a zoom meeting with two attorneys from EFF.org on March 18. Stay > tuned....and maybe ban PayPal. > > --potlatch > >> Am 3/11/21 um 12:42 AM schrieb potlatch: >> >>> Today I received a message from PayPal that paying for Tor relay server >>> leases was a direct violation of my usage agreement. I have been paying >>> off-shore VPS hosts for my Tor server leases with PayPal for at least ten >>> years. Very interesting that they act now. >>> They specifically state the ban was for: >>> Providing file sharing services or access to newsgroups; or selling >>> alcoholic beverages, non-cigarette tobacco products, e-cigarettes or >>> prescription drugs/devices. >>> They further state that the ban is permanent and not reversible. >>> I liked using PayPal because it was a safe way to pay and didn't expose my >>> credit card information. Before PayPal I used a prepaid card which I will >>> probably go back too. >>> --Potlatch >>> >>> https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
