On Sat, Sep 18, 2021, 3:24 AM grarpamp <[email protected]> wrote: > > We must defend our own privacy if we expect to have any. > > Cypherpunks write code. > > We know that someone has to write software to defend privacy, > > and ... we're going to write it." > > GnuPG, and many networks, message systems, etc already exist... > a magnitude above plaintext. Yes, go write improve make more. > > But none of that has done a single shit to "defend" or "preserve" > realworld privacy since 30 years of write code. In fact there has > since been colossal ongoing net LOSS of all forms of realworld > privacy since then. Realworld tyranny doesn't give a fuck > about your little private online utopias, it stormrolls over them, > Traffic Analyzes them, pulls their plug, defunds, brainwashes, > indoctrinates, infiltrates, coinalyzes, informs, plea offers, cracks, > sybil's, and generally rubberhoses them all at will. > > Realworld still trumps online privtopia world. > > Now AP (more generally Prediction Markets, PM's in general being a > tool for determining odds of many various outcomes and projects), > PM's may be the only "code" even capable of exerting any real > influence back into and upon the real world from privtopias. > > But even though any of the coins that can send an arbitrary text/data > field along with the transaction can host a PM... no one has done > any PM's of influence yet, on any platform. > > Not even Bitcoin the hardly private toy is doing any real influence yet > other than bursting a few brain circuits in a few legacy GovCorpBank sters. > > > > what are people doing on this mailing list who aren't > > interested in information security > > Not quite. There are more than a few, and some > very talented and experienced, infosec people here. > > > that can't write a code? > > Not quite. There are more than a few, and some > very talented and experienced, coders here. > > > Yet none of them have to tell. > > > I really wonder why this mailing list isn't being used for its purpose? > > Maybe it is. > Maybe it is a privacy coin... > The inputs to its output purpose do not have to be > visible to everyone, nor even to anyone, for it to function... > > > I don't want to see government licks > > Lots of those here too. > > Did you "vote"... you're a GovLick. >
Voting does influence stuff, recommend continuing unless you're in a group being manipulated to oppress themselves or something, or can actually stay anonymous somehow if you don't. Did you pay "tax"... you're a GovLick. > Did you get a "BirthID", a "driver license"... you're a GovLick. > Did you choose Govt subsidized school... you're a GovLick. > Did you use GovBank Fiat... you're a GovLick. > Did you ... you're a GovLick. > Did you not even open your mouth to anyone, in public discourse, > in the realworld, against forms of Govt and "authority" and for freedom > and privacy... you're a GovLick. > > > and nationalists here. > > Lots of those too, voluntary nations being just as fine > as voluntary socialist, religion, whatever, etc, provided > they're compliant. > Yet people don't know voluntaryism, so they whine against > the few free chosen NAP compliant associations. > > > This is the cypherpunks mailing list.Please speak on purpose here. > > Maybe lots have already given years to decades of it > around the real world. Some at great cost and lost > opportunity or ongoing risk. But they don't have to tell you of it. > > Are you paying people to write and speak code for you? > > Otherwise people freely give it as they wish or not. > > But oh so many crybabies crying for censor mod bans > when the crybabies should go and filter their own mailboxes > from the assholes, agents, spies, trolls, traps, pols, > GovLicks, hacks, cracks, shills, trojans, influence, noise, > and bayes markov tune it to just what they want to hear. > > > And the worst... > > The crybabies are not writing and speaking code, they > themselves are ones not adding to making the lists what > they claim to desire to see. Not even posting articles, > not even making cpunk commentary, not even demoing and > reviewing the smallest simplest bit of any cpunk app > running on that piece of GovLick Microsoft Windows > or Apple Mac OS they are running. > > But they sure want everyone to talk all about it for them, > to censor ban, etc. >
