karl1: 'karl is a turd! karl is a turd!  karl is a turd!'
karl1: 'maybe a better word that 'turd' would help'
karl1: 'hard to think of'
karl2: 'so, you're not a turd, but it makes things nicer to say you are?'
karl1: 'maybe?'
karl2: 'why are you a turd?'
karl1: 'because i'm not a middle manager at a business? i dunno.'
karl2: 'that's the closest you have?'

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