I think binary thinking is detrimental to getting people on safe and secure services. Signal is far from perfect, but I'd rather have the world with people on signal, than the world and all people on sms or facebook where signal does not exist.

That said however, what are some state of the art services that are better than signal?

I'd say jami, xmpp/irc with OTR, and I've heard that matrix is E2E encrypted, but I do not like the architecture of matrix. For me it seems to want to do too much instead of being good at one thing.

Then there is tox and bitmessage and I do not know if they are still alive and well.

And last but not least, mumble.

Any others you think I should have a look at?

On Wed, 5 Apr 2023, professor rat wrote:

Some members of the privacy community, including Snowden, criticize Signal’s 
requirement that each user sign up with a phone number; others object to 
Signal’s default setting that alerts users every time a contact joins the 
service. And, although all of Signal’s source code is open-source and 
peer-reviewed, most users cannot be certain whether it is identical to the code 
deployed in the apps they download, or to the code that is actually running on 
Signal’s servers. Others argue that Signal should be federated, or 
decentralized: rather than trusting a single organization to remain stable, 
invulnerable, uncompromised, and oriented toward their needs, participants 
should be able to run their own servers.

https://archive.vn/nARhl#selection-2239.0-2241.460

Signal Fails, an anonymous zine recently published on several anarchist Web 
sites, warns against dependency on a centralized service, particularly one 
running on mobile devices. “If your device is compromised with a keylogger or 
other malicious software, it doesn’t really matter how secure your 
communications are,” the zine reads. Were anarchists to “pose a major threat to 
the established order,” the government would “come for us and our 
infrastructure without mercy.”

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