X-Loop: openpgp.net From: "Tim May" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Just so you know, I believe the moral thing for Elian's father to > have done was to hire some skilled people--perhaps ex-Spetsnaz--and > go in to the Lorenzo and Maryslices home and taken Elian. Once Elian > was safely out of the house, execute all those complicit in his > kidnapping. Oh, so now Tim not only is no longer an anarchist, he's not even a libertarian. Tim has just become a leftist nihilist, advocating violation of other people's rights. Sad... > However, our society makes this an untenable option. Government has > decreed that only they may use force, that only they may rescue > kidnapped children. > > Given us realities, I would then say--were it my child--to government > the following: This is bullshit. "Given our realities, the best I can do is to lobby the government for a larger piece of pie". This is what distinguishes principled people from the rest: some of us consider *wrong* to advocate violation of rights, no matter how expedient it is. > "This uncle and his daughter do not have a right to hold my son. He > is six years old. He can express opinions about Hot Wheels and hot > dogs and Disney World, but he does not know a single thing about > politics. Which is completely irrelevant. The kid hasn't said "I want to live in capitalism"; he just said "I want to live here". His reasons are unimportant. > Now according to our Romanian One True Believer, anyone who bows to > the "monopoly on force" de facto system is a communist, is not a true > believer, etc. Anybody who advocates violation of people's rights - no matter the "higher goal" invoked - is a socialist, yes. > I'm tempted to hire some folks in Bucharest to go and seize Marcel's > 7-year-old daughter, hold her for a few weeks, ply her with toys and > candy and similar inducements, and then video tape record her saying > she really does want to be given asylum in some nice Arabic country. > Marcel can then remember his words about young children have the > right to make life-changing choices as his daughter is turned into a > child concubine in one of the satrapies in the sands. As I said, violation of people's rights. And you somehow consider this an argument... [Not to mention lying a small child (if that were possible, see next <g>), not to mention lack of reading skills: it's seven MONTHS old.] Here's hope that this is not the real Tim May, but some government puppet... Mark
