At 3:45 PM -0700 8/13/00, Kerry L. Bonin wrote:
>At 06:17 PM 8/13/00 -0400, Tim May wrote:
>>At 8:33 PM -0400 8/11/00, Kerry L. Bonin wrote:
>>>
>>>heh... I was wondering if/how I should qualify my own comments as well.  I
>>>have kids, and my personal opinion on kiddie porn is minimum penalty of
>>>forced castration for creators of the images, if not death penalty.  That
>>>said, I don't think its constitutional for the FBI to conduct "dragnet"
>>>sweeps for _any_ crime, which seems to the direction they are heading -
>>>'two wrongs' and the like.  The technical issues on both sides are
>>>interesting, and as I work in security and open source crypto, I'm
>>>painfully aware of my role on both sides of the fence.
>>
>>
>>And in my view, you deserve the death penalty for advocating that
>>others who appreciate what you call "kiddie porn" face the death
>>penalty.
>>
>>
>>--Tim May
>
>If you are going to judge me for my comments, please do so accurately. 
>
>I did not state that those who "appreciate what you call 'kiddie porn'"
>deserve the death penalty. 
>
>I stated that I feel that the "creators of the images", i.e. those behind
>the cameras of "kiddie porn", i.e. sexually exploitive pictures of
>significantly underage (often pre-pubescent) children, deserve the death
>penalty.


Point taken. You deserve the death penalty for advocating the death 
penalty for this specific point. (Though nearly all child porn laws 
make no distinction between producers and consumers.)

The issue of whether a child is "hurt" by some behavior is not 
compelling. Many children are hurt by many things. Being photographed 
is only one tiny facet of this.

--Tim May

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