At 2:24 AM -0400 8/30/00, Mark Murray wrote:
>  > Would a public PRNG (Yarrow?) server be of any use? I suppose it could be
>>  done as a proof-of-concept, or as another source of entropy for an internal
>>  PRNG... and the trust issue could be dealt with just as you deal with the
>>  Intel PRNG. IMO, the bandwidth would be the limitation here; an intranet
>>  (LAN) PRNG might be better.
>
>You'd need to prtect the numbers thus served; they'd be no use if
>an ethernet snooper could pick them up, so the distribution channel
>should be at least encrypted. (SSH and SSL could both be used).
>
>>  I'm asking this because I think that a big problem with PRNGs is that the
>>  application is the more difficult part - securing the seed file, making sure
>>  the entropy into the system is correct, and any other issues I can't think
>>  of right now. It would be easier to set them up *correctly* on one computer
>>  than on many, and at most the randomness-demanding applications on the
>>  client computers could "fall back" on the server.
>
>Interesting idea! You could take it further and put some decent hardware
>RNG(s) on the server as well.

John Walker has had PRNs on the Net for a number of years. 
Interesting as a curiosity, but not very useful from a security point 
of view.

(Calculate the approximate number of bits of entropy in a "real" 
stream of, say, a few hundred locally-generated bits vs. the number 
of bits of entropy in the stream that is "Walker's bits beginning at 
11:18:52 GMT." No comparison.)

--Tim May
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