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On 16 Jul 2001, at 15:52, wrote: James A. Donald:
> > > > The black panthers were torn apart because they murdered
> > > > dissidents
Faustine
> My point was the feds didn't have to murder anybody--play them off
> each other and they do it to themselves.
If they were the kind of people who could so easily be tempted to murder dissidents,
perhaps the spooks had the right idea.
> Still, if you read the documentation, COINTELPRO was quite a formidable
> program.
Perhaps. The FBI by its very nature tends to do bad things, and we have seen some bad
things done by the FBI to people who post on this list.
I took a look at a few web pages reporting COINTELPRO, and found them long on
unspecified rumors about things happening to unspecified people at unspecified places
and times, and very short on any concrete evidence concerning specific people to which
specific things had happened, much resembling
web pages reporting widespread use of slaves, or widespread alien abductions.
Now obviously we know of some real world activities that correspond to COINTELPRO,
notably the attack on Randy Weaver, but it seems to me that there is absolutely zero
evidence that the authoritarian and self destructive actions of the radical left
during the late sixties, the seventies, and the
eighties were the result of evil CIA mind rays. If such evidence existed, it would
have been prominently displayed on some of the web pages I encountered.
I find it much more plausible that commies did bad things, things characteristic of
commies, because they were bad people.
I did a web search for KGB and COINTELPRO, to find a web page that mentioned bad
conduct by all such agencies. I found no relevant hits, from which I conclude that of
all the people so vitally concerned about the bad things done by the FBI in the
sixties and seventies, not a one is at all
concerned about the bad things done by the KGB in the sixties and seventies.
Of course it is reasonable for people in the US to be more concerned about US spies
that Soviet spies, since the US spies mostly on US people, and the Soviet Union spied
mostly on russian people, but still, zero relevant hits? I find that a little odd.
This gives me reason to doubt the
sincerity, and therefore the truthfulness, of those reporting COINTELPRO
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