Anonymous wrote:

> Agent Farr wrote:

I'm sure you think that's really funny.

> >This place has turned into a disease vector for anti-intelligence
> >propaganda. Some of you are "carriers."
> >
> >Governments opposed to the re-invigoration of our intelligence
> capabilities
> >and American spheres of influence are planting some of this crap. The
> >Russians made some direct threats of "relative measures" after the Pasko
> >protests (aimed at the FSB), citing the involvement of U.S. diplomats.
>
> Do you have any evidence to support this wild claim?

"I bet I can get her to fish that up...." *rolls eyes*

[1] http://www.themoscowtimes.com/stories/2002/01/15/014.html

[2] 2002-01-14 15:20 MSK - NOTE OF PROTEST SENT TO US EMBASSY
MOSCOW - The Foreign Ministry of the Russian Federation sent a diplomatic
note of protest to the US Embassy in Moscow and expressed its discontent
with activities of the US consulate in Vladivostok, diplomatic sources in
Moscow reported to RosBusinessConsulting today.
The reason for sending the note was the participation of the US Consul
General and the US Consul for political and economic affairs in a
demonstration near the department of the Federal Security Service in the
Primorye region and the court of the Pacific Fleet and the Military
Prosecutor's Office. The demonstration was arranged by the public committee
in the support of military journalist Grigory Pasko on January 10. The
Foreign Ministry of Russia declared the participation of the US officials in
this event "a serous violation of international rules, which may cause
relative measures in response from Russia."  - RBC
----

Observations:

Post 9/11, the policy actions in Russia resemble maneuver warfare, not
deliberative politics. Not just changes in regard to foreign policy, but
internal structural changes. Putin has been very busy in speaking to other
countries, and the press has been busy signaling diplomatic and economic
alliances: France, Poland, China, Germany, India, Vietnam, Brazil, Japan....
(He looks like that super-hero guy in the red outfit with the lighting rods
on his ears. The fast guy. Every day, he's had a visit or a phone
conversation with another country.) A few weeks back, we had Russian
generals "going ballistic." (actual English words, in case you might miss
the undertone) This week, big headline: our missile endeavors are going to
ensure U.S. technological hegemony FOREVER!

In just a few months, Russia repositioned itself. They have OODA-loop
politics. (That sort of policy speed is probably on par with what military
might used to be.)

They are restricting foreigners, going through spy/treason mania, gagging
the press, they even have a new law against desecrating the national anthem.
Their new senate consists of powerful people nominated to represent small
regions from which they have no connection whatsoever. (None of this has
made the Washington Post, or I haven't seen it.) 75% of their politicians
take bribes, and the old KGB runs the country. I don't mean to mirror-image,
but it's disturbing -- it's like they *COPIED* our anti-dissent statutes c.
1917, and right before we entered the Cold War. (Espionage & Sedition Acts,
Smith Act, etc....)

Russia is talking about re-nationalizing Soviet intellectual property and
"making lists," with punitive measures, forcing intensive R&D (Russian word
for espionage), especially in the military and oil sectors. (No more silly
embassy games for them, they will task their criminal networks.) Japan stole
entire industry sectors inside of 10 years.

While terrorism is mostly put forth as a dirty tool of policy, it strikes at
the heart of the social contract. Our response: "When all you have is a
hammer, everything looks like a nail." Terrorism makes us hit our own people
and focus on perimeter defenses, which gives subnational groups cohesion and
loads our defensive orientation. It would seem to offer a situation that
other countries can take advantage of in numerous ways. I hope our "War on
Terrorism" isn't masking the advent of another kind of warfare.

They want to undermine public opinion of our intelligence agencies, because
they are after our throat.

~Aimee

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