True enough, but the Germans were doing almost as well against
themselves, having attacked a great many US ships since 1939 and  sunk a
few, including at least one in US territorial waters. (Usual googles
quickly come up with sites like http://www.usmm.org/casualty.html and
there is stuff on the amazing http://uboat.net/) 

Also US forces (in the guise of military advisors to the Chinese,
"Flying Tigers" and so on) had been involved on a small scale in the war
against Japan for some years.

Pearl Harbo(u)r didn't get the US into the war - that was happening
anyway - it just made it trivial for the government to crush the
opposition to joining in. My googling around also came up with this
justification of US involvement by Roosevelt:
http://www.ibiblio.org/pha/7-2-188/188-26.html  (which is probably old
hat to you but not being a USAian I haven't seen such stuff of course) 
Some similarities (presumably not coincidental) to things said recently,
though  George Bush could do with some of those old speechwriters.

Ken

Sunder wrote:
> 
> Um, how do you think the USA got sucked into WWII anyway?  Sure Pearl
> Harbor did the trick, but before that, the Brits were running psyops on us
> trying to change our isolationist policies.


> On Tue, 19 Feb 2002, Eugene Leitl wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 19 Feb 2002, Lucky Green wrote:
> >
> > > So where is the news? Is it that the government is admitting to this
> > > well-known fact?
> >
> > Admitting to run PSYOPS against allies has novelty at least to me.
> > Widespread realization of this results in loss of efficiency in
> > communication (everything is assumed to be a lie a priori unless proven
> > otherwise) and voter-driven change in policy (e.g. EU-US axis).
> >

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