James sent me this,anyone here know why?He couldn't have gotten any loopier 
could he?
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>On Thu, 03 Jan 2002 00:07:17 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (rand
>mair fheal) wrote:
>
> >In article <87SY7.16223$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "M. L. Davis"
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>rand mair fheal wrote in message ...
> >>>>Cause                                                       Number
> >>>>
> >>>>Motor-vehicle                                            2,900
> >>>>Drowning                                                     965
> >>>>Fires, burns                                                  676
> >>>> Mechanical suffication                                 474
> >>>> Ingestion of food, object                             185
> >>>>Firearms                                                      142
> >>>>
> >>>>Source: Figures are for 1997. National Safety Council, Accident Facts:
> >>>>2000 Edition, at 10, 11, 18.
> >>>>
> >>>>Lookslike we need to ban swimming pools and taking kids for car rides
> >>first.
> >>>
> >>>people also devote a great deal of effort
> >>>to making cars safer
> >>
> >>Yet there is no way to asure those safety features are used- is there?
> >
> >even harder to use nonexistent safety features
>
>What "safety" features are required on a handgun?
>--
>
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> > rand mair fheal wrote:
> >
> > car manufacturers are sued and stomped on for their product defects
> > and more so when they try to hide defects
>---------------
>
>  Cars are not supposed to be tools designed for killing things.
>
>  When they DO kill, then there are obvious safety concerns.
>
>  Guns that kill when the trigger is pulled are NOT defective!
>--
>
>  - Mike -
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>"rand mair fheal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > In article <RKIZ7.6250$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Scout"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >"rand mair fheal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >> In article <vvtZ7.6187$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Scout"
> > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >"rand mair fheal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >> >> >Safety features onlywork IF you usew them. Ofthe17 people killed on
> > >> >Florida
> > >> >> >roads over NewYears only 3 were buckled up. In case you did not
> > >notice,
> > >> >> >theseatbeltsdidnot save the three who used them either.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> which is why congress wants passive restraints like air bags
> > >> >
> > >> >Why not simply ban cars?
> > >>
> > >> fine with me
> > >> dangerous stinking chunks of metal
> > >> fields of poppies and buttercups paved over into parking lot
> > >>
> > >> they found paradise
> > >> and put up a parking lot
> > >
> > >I'm sure that would be fine with you. Simply notes how unrealistic your
> > >"solutions" can become.
> >
> > its old ploy
> > 'gosh why control guns when cars are so much more dangerous'
> > and you expect to stutter and stammer trying to defend cars
> >
> > and when i dont you have to resort to more childish tantrums
>
>Nope, no childish tantrums, just a note that you are willing to accept any
>solution no matter how stupid, unrealistic or unworkable.
>
>Tells me a lot about your mindset in supporting gun control. Doesn't matter
>if it would work, can work or anything else, as long as it appeals to your
>"sensitivities" then anything is acceptable to you.
>
>
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>On Sat, 5 Jan 2002 03:15:05 -0700, "Steve Harris"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >"Scout" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:KAtZ7.6188$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >>
> >> "Steve Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >> news:a14ugd$pqn$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> > "Bert Hyman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Harris) wrote in
> >> > > news:a14tfn$t69$[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> >> > >
> >> > > > "Billy Beck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >> > > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> I don't need you or anyone else telling me how to handle my guns,
> >> > > >> and I won't have it in any circumstances.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > COMMENT
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Oh yes, you will, because whatever the voter decides will be
> >> > > > enforced by people who (guaranteed) will outgun you.  And you will
> >> > > > do what they say, or they will send a SWAT team which will kill
> >> > > > you.  Very simple.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Thus, I suggest stop beating your chest. It just makes you look
> >> > > > silly.
> >> > >
> >> > > You, on the other hand, look like an apologist for authoritarian
> >> > > thugs.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > COMMENT:
> >> >
> >> > Why, because I'm a realist, stating the obvious (or what ought to be
> >>
> >> <Visualizing this as an interview with a German citizen in 1939>
> >>
> >> I suppose supporting genocide is acceptable as long as you are a realist
> >> about it?
> >
> >Did I say I supported genocide?  Realistically, there's nothing that can be
>
>You support anything that the government might be able to achieve with
>naked force and brutality.
>
>But then so did a majority of Germans between 1933 and 1945.
>--
>
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>On Sat, 5 Jan 2002 03:22:08 -0700, "Steve Harris"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> >"Christopher Morton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> On Fri, 4 Jan 2002 11:45:50 -0700, "Steve Harris"
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >"Billy Beck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> >
> >> >> I don't need you or anyone else telling me how to handle my guns,
> >> >> and I won't have it in any circumstances.
> >> >
> >> >COMMENT
> >> >
> >> >Oh yes, you will, because whatever the voter decides will be enforced by
> >> >people who (guaranteed) will outgun you.  And you will do what they say,
> >or
> >> >they will send a SWAT team which will kill you.  Very simple.
> >> >
> >> >Thus, I suggest stop beating your chest. It just makes you look silly.
> >>
> >> I suggest you stop looking for a jackboot to lick.  It only makes you
> >> look like what you really are, a serf.
> >
> >
> >ROFL. Whereas you, Che Guevara, are no doubt posting from your secret base
> >in the Jungles of Bolivia?
>
>When you're older, have your mommy take you to library.  See if she'll
>let you check out Osanka.  She'll probably just make you read Dr.
>Seuss.
>
> >If you disagree with the feds and you're not shooting at them, you're a
> >hypocrite to take the stand you do.  You are equally a serf.  A loud mouthed
> >braggart whose mouth writes checks his arsenal can't cash.
>
>You're a coward and a serf, railing at everyone else who doesn't share
>your cowardice and servility.
>
>For you, government is just one big S&M power exchange.
>
>The only question is, which do you crave more?
>
>The sting of the lash or the feel of the handle?
>--
>
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> >> On Fri, 4 Jan 2002 11:58:30 -0700, "Steve Harris"
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> >>
> >> >"Keith A Flick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> >> >
> >> >> Not quite true.  A gun in a gun safe, or many
> >> >> guns in many gun safes, are very useful in
> >> >> deterring government misbehaviors.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >COMMENT
> >> >
> >> >Yeah, wow, look how it deterred the government from mistreating the
> >> >Davidians.
> >>
> >> It deterred those wretches from mistreating a lot of other people.
> >> The BATF LOST at Waco.  It took armor for the FBI to prevail.
> >
> >So?  This in no way detracts from my point. The government always outguns
> >you.
>
>Bad tactics do not inevitability make.  Now cowardice, such as
>yours....
>
> >> You're just a coward looking for someone to submit to.
> >
> >I haven't heard about your own fiiefight with the fibbies.  Don't call other
> >people cowards unless you have something better to show than bold talk.
>
>You're a coward.  You yearn for servility.
>--
>
>"sure an a nigger is going to use denigrate." - Glen Yeadon
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>Steve Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>]"Christopher Morton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>]> You're just a coward looking for someone to submit to.
>]
>]I haven't heard about your own fiiefight with the fibbies.  Don't call other
>]people cowards unless you have something better to show than bold talk.
>
>Why? While your detractors may or may not crack in battle they at least 
>are not
>tripping over themselves to surrender before the fact like you are.
>
>You are far too willing to give up, and seem quite proud of the fact. That 
>makes you a
>coward. Your opponents *might* be cowards, but haven't done anything yet 
>to prove it.
>
>You leaped to the occasion. To cover up that fact, you are now visciously 
>attacking
>people and demanding they do stupid things like immediately take up arms 
>when there is
>currently no need to do so.
>
>--
>|Patrick Chester                                      [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
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> > "Our dream of a socialist America cannot be realized until the population
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>     Citation please; I don't believe she ever said it ... so prove it!!
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>"M. Eglestone" wrote:
> >
> > > rand mair fheal wrote:
> > >
> > > car manufacturers are sued and stomped on for their product defects
> > > and more so when they try to hide defects
> > ---------------
> >
> >  Cars are not supposed to be tools designed for killing things.
> >
> >  When they DO kill, then there are obvious safety concerns.
> >
> >  Guns that kill when the trigger is pulled are NOT defective!
> > --
> >
> >  - Mike -

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