My Fellow Cypherpunks,
Nomen Nescio writes
>>Gary Jeffers writes:
>>The purpose of the coming Iraq war is to steal their oil. After we get
>> Iraq oil, which arab country is next? If U. State can get away with the
>>theft of Iraq, then why not just keep on stealing?
>>The beneficiaries of this war are:
>>1. United State:
>>2. Corporations, connected.
>>3. The ruling elite families.
>>4. The Zionists.
Nomen Nescio writes
>Even if all this were true, so what? All of the groups above woulddo better things with the oil. The represent the forces of enterprise,initiative and enlightenment >in the world today.
OH, WHERE TO START?
How about United State(s)?
Here are a few of the items:
1. We got the American land by alternating
1.slaughtering Indians, goto 2.
2. make peace treaty, goto 3
3. break peace treaty, goto 1
Its bad enough that we killed the Indians, but dishonoring ourselfs by breaking our word is just beyond the pale.
oh yes, we used germ warfare - the infected blankets. This was back in the old days when we had "moral fiber".
2. We got silly and got into WW1. Its ok to get silly but don't get into a WW with it.
3. By crushing Germany with reparations we helped start WW2 - basically a continuation of WW1 ("the war to end all wars").
4. FDR forced the Japs into war by embargoing steel and oil to them. He also silenced the Pearl Harbor attack alarm.
5. We had the fire storm bombings of the German cities.
6. After Japan was pushing hard for a peace treaty, Truman unnecessarily dropped 2 fission bombs on Jap cities.
7. Johnson's Gulf of Tolken resolution, after his Tolken attack lie.
8. Alice Glasspie, US Ambassadore to Iraq, tells Saddam that "Iraq's relations with Kuwait Iraq's business" and thus starts Desert Storm war.
Saddam is fooled into attacking. THE US STARTED THE WAR!
9. Wasn't it the Kuwait Ambassadore's kid who lied about the premature Kuwait babies being taken out of the incubators by evil Iraqis and then
incubators taken to Iraq. US Press ate this lie up and fed it to US people. This got US people sentiment up for war.
10. We defeat Iraq in DESERT STORM war and then throw giangantically expensive victory away by leaving Saddam in power.
11. Then to force Iraq people to get rid of Saddam, we imbargo Iraq's oil and thus starve millions of people for years.
12 Previous imbargo, Cuba still going strong - for decades. We put millions of people in poverty to encourage people to overthrow Castro.
Say! Do Saddam and Castro eat well?
13. Spanish American war started when one of our warships accidentally explodes. Captain thought it was an accident. Hearst press
propagandises that Spain did it to start war. We started another war.
14. 9/11 done by CIA, Zionists, corporations, other U.S. elements and ruling elites to start war to steal arab countrieS oil. - Arabs blamed.
WHO BENEFITS?!
15. Bush the Elder, former CIA chief and oil family man becomes US president.
A few elections later, his son Bush Jr.(govenor of Texas) becomes president after unbelievable close election - decided in brother
govenors(son of former CIA chief) Florida state after lots of voter fraud and JUDICIAL DECISION. HEY! IS SOMETHING QUEER GOING ON HERE?
16. Oh yes, we put Saddam into power and supported him in Iran war. We also supplied him hugely with weapons.
16,. I believe that it was not too long ago that we supported Bin Laden?
17. Gun control
18. Private Federal Reserve and IRS.
fools see 17 and 18.
Democracy see 4, 6, 7, 8, 14
Well, I could go on but I have used up enought time.
Harmons right, someone's going to have to disarm US of WMD. We are the psycopaths. History proves it :-) History also proves that the American
people have been huge fools for the last 89 years.
Nomen Nescio writes
> What is the alternative?Iraq? Saddam Hussein? You think the world is a better place withsomeone like him controlling Iraqi oil?He's no >better than any of >the groups above. He took power by forceand rules his country with an iron fist. See the recent elections -100% of the vote was supposedly >for Hussein! >What a joke.How can anyone claim that the U.S. or Israel or corporations or richAmericans are morally worse than the likes of Hussein?A 21st >century where >democratic, liberal Western democracies control theworld will be far more prosperous, safe and free than one where backwards,repressive, >religious i>deologies like Islam dominate.The mere fact that you feel free to criticize the U.S., but would nevergo to Iraq and criticize Hussein just proves the >point. >Sure, freedomof speech is not absolute in the U.S., and the degree of protection hasfluctuated; during WWI people were sent to jail for critic!
izing the >draft,but >we're nowhere near that point now.But these freedoms are non-existant in Iraq, China, and other countrieswhich are the real threat to peace and >freedom in >the coming decades.Look at http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=3235 which describesa case in neighboring Iran where a respected >academic >was sentencedto DEATH for saying that Muslims should not blindly obey the Imams.These are the forces which are trying to assert their dominance >overthe >world as we move into this new century. We either stand by andlet it happen, condemning future generations to lives of suffering,poverty and >ignorance, or we >take steps to stop it, defending Westernculture and its ideals of freedom.That's what's really at stake here. We're fighting over which >ideologywill control the >world. And yes, oil is a potent weapon in this struggle.Leaving !
those vast oil resources in the hands of conservative Muslimsw!
ould be
a >huge mistake from >the perspective of this decades-long war.So let's agree with Gary Jeffers: Beat State! But the state we mustbeat is the state of religious >persecution and >dictatorship practiced byHussein. If we hold all states to the same standard instead of heapingcriticism only on one, we will see that Iraq is >far more >deserving ofcondemnation than most. Their government deserves to be beaten, to bedestroyed. It would be the finest gift we could give to the Iraqi >people.
Yours Truly,
Gary Jeffers
BEAT STATE!!!!
