hi,

thank you.

what about this
http://xray.sai.msu.ru/~lipunov/text/ashkl/node3.html

http://www.transhumanism.ndtilda.co.uk/Fermi.htm
it says

There has been much speculation around Fermi's famous
question: "Where are they? Why haven't we seen any
traces of intelligent extraterrestrial life?". One way
in which this question has been answered (Brin 1983)
is that we have not seen any traces of intelligent
extraterrestrial life because there is no
extraterrestrial life because intelligent
extraterrestrial life tend to self-destruct soon after
it reaches the stage where it can engage in cosmic
colonization and communication. This is the same
conclusion as that of the Doomsday argument (i.e.: we
are likely to perish soon), but arrived at trough a
wholly different line of argument.


So does the fermi paradox mean that there are no extra
terrestrials.Can't we throw away this paradox like
every other paradox?

Regards Sarath.


--- Mike Rosing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Sarad AV wrote:
> 
> > As it says-they are self referecial
> statements.What do
> > we learn from the liars paradox?
> >
> > We arrive at a senseless result-doesn't all other
> > paradoxes do that-with the difference that they
> pick
> > only either true or false-which "they so strongly
> > beleive in" and come with the result they want?IS
> n't
> > that all paradoxes are trying to do?
> 
> That's kind of a trivial paradox.  Any paradox
> arises
> from misunderstanding reality.
> 
> When you point your own finger at yourself (or your
> mirror image) it is a self referential operation.
> A sentence can't reference itself - you have to read
> it.  The symbols just sit there.  It is your attempt
> to apply meaning to the symbols that causes a
> problem.
> For example: xkdurp sathn kll ftres xcv tyeslr makes
> as much sense as the paradox.
> 
> And every paradox can be thrown away in similar
> fasion.
> You just have to figure out what it is you don't
> understand.
> :-)  Usually harder than it looks!
> 
> Patience, persistence, truth,
> Dr. mike
> 
> 


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