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Jim Choate wrote:
On Mon, 6 Jan 2003, blah wrote:

From: Jim Choate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Sat, 4 Jan 2003, blah wrote:

> Not from the photons perspective, from a photons perspective there is
> -no- time.

 A photon has no "perspective".

Yes it does. It is a particle and it interacts with the rest of the
cosmos. The cosmos views it, it views the cosmos.


Anyone that wishes to have the short version and skip the detailed
corrections to misconceptions, they may note simply that an observer
in special relativity compares their results with other observers
through a lorentz transform.

The photon -is- an observer. It observes the device, just as the device
observes it.

There is a 'c' and a 'v' in -any- Lorentz transform. Do the math with v=c.

'v' is -always- in relation to 'c' because 'c' is -always constant-.


There exists no lorentz transform by which any observer may transform
coordinates to a photon,

Really why?


  It's called relativity because it assumes no absolute frame against
which speeds must be referenced.

Wrong. -ALL- speeds are measured against c. That -is- the whole point of
Lorentz transforms. 'c' is -always- c.

c is a -constant-. Therefore it -is absolute-. There is no -space-
constant, to that I will agree.


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