On Ken's
> > All contemporary natural languages, like all biological species, are

> > the same age.

At first this parsed because I was thinking in the sense of
"all organisms have ancestries going back the same amount of
time".  (And humans aren't the 'goal' of evolution.)  Not sure
if non-bioheads got this.  Anyway others' complaints clarified
"speciation" --if you are willing to identify a bifurcation point
then you *can* age a species or any other fork --Linux 2.4,
Latin, Corvettes, etc.


At 10:36 AM 1/14/03 -0800, Michael Motyka wrote:
>An interesting question that arises out of the observation that some
languages
>are relatively static and others - like English - have been changing
steadily. Is
>there any connection between the evolution behavior of the language and
the
>vitality of the culture? I think so.

"Vitality" is fuzzy.  Clearly America admitting everyone (cf Japanese)
helps.
Clearly not having an Acadamie Anglaise helps (cf surrender-monkeys).
Electronic media probably help.

There's an even more interesting technical evolution:
English is also undergoing "entropic refinement" or Hamming-like coding,

as speakers prune or invent for efficiency.

As it is, it takes fewer letters in English to say something than every
other common language.
Look at the instruction manuals for your domestic appliances.

Forms (memory requirements) get simpler ---can you believe that the
surrender-monkeys retain
a gender-bit for every friggin object-- and phonetically simpler too.
The sounds get more orthogonal.
Also the influence of immigrants and children and lazy native speakers
who can't tell a "v" from a "w" or "d" from "th",
or remember the 150 irregular verbs.

Some of this is natural.  I've adopted the southern "y'all" because
English has no plural third person and this
ambiguity is annoying when you're emailing to several people.  Note also
the efficiency of the contraction.
You hear "data" used as singular enough times, you say fuck it, I'll
have a beer, or several beer [sic].  Talk to
Eastern Europeans long enough, you'll start dropping your articles,
though you may miss the FEC/prompting
and flash back to Boris & Natasha cartoons...

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