My Fellow Cypherpunks,

Tim May writes:

>On Tuesday, January 21, 2003, at 11:55  AM, Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous :
>> I'm sure that I do nothing new in drawing parallels between the
>> occurences in George Orwell's seminal text "1984" and the founding of the  Information
>> Awareness Office.  It is nothing short of terrifying that someone
>>wants to gather all digital information on anyone and everyone into a giant  database
>> for the purpose of finding out who is a social "undesirable" and who  isn't.
>>  We are moving into another glorious age, where one may come under
>> scrutiny due to the books and films that we rent, the clothes that we buy, and the places
>> that we visit.  This has happened before and will probably happen  again and
>> we will still probably learn nothing from it.  My question is why is everyone so apathetic about this?

Tim May
>But we're NOT apathetic about this. Many of us have acquired the usual assault rifles, explosives, etc.,
>and we anticipate the onset of Revolution. Look to anonymous remailers, militias, and depots as
>the reason the free man has been preparing.I expect 20 million to die. Fortunately, 18 million
>of them will be the usual Democrat, Commies, welfare recipients, negro activists,  and Socialist fellow travellers.
>The other two million will be the Bushies. And proably most of the remaining Jews will be scourged, as
>payment for their support of thefts, of Zionism, etc. Sounds fair to me.Ain't gonna be a lot of negroes and
>Mexicans after this war is over. (I'm not a racist. It's their leaders and their ideology that is to blame. These
>leaders have led their followers to acts which cannot be forgiven, and which must be punished by death.
>Nearly all of them need killing for what they have done, regardless of which mischief-makers taught them their
>mischief.)We should be cheerful about this upcoming burn-off of twenty million negroes,
>Mexicans, Jews, and liberals will mean.--Tim May

   Tim May indulges himself in an entertaining fantasy here. The war is not between ethnic groups. Mostly, it is not between
political groups. The war is between tiny ruling elites and the mostly very ignorant masses. Tim May is with us as a unit
of the very ignorant masses.   Mostly, it has not even been a war but a beating of the masses by the ruling elites.

   The ruling elites attempt to take away our guns so we cannot defend ourselves.
The surveillance by the State is to keep the people from organising and from being informed. A well organized, and informed
people who also have lots of  good weapons would be able to defeat the State and its ruling elites.

   Much of the intolerance of American groups to each other has been multiplied by the ruling elites in the old technique
of divide and conquer and rule.

   So, why is the recent great increase in State power? The reason is that the ruling elite is beginning to put the U.S. people into
poverty.  We are not used to poverty and we won't be graceful about accepting it. The police state will protect the wealth of the
priviledged from the people. It appears that America is going to join the 3rd world countries. As the State becomes much more
obviously illegitimate, it needs much greater force to dominate the people. As it more greatly crushes the people in the
service to the ruling elite it needs greater force.

   Tim May sees the contest as between the State and independent people. This is not true. It is the ruling elites against the people as
a collective interest and as masses of individuals as it seems to always have been. The State is a cat's paw of the ruling elites.
Other instruments of the ruling elites are huge corporations, central banks and major religions. The ruling elites seem to mainly exist as
privileded families. Tim May wallows in LIbertarian Dogma.

   As far as Tim May's boast of the the burn-off of minority groups, we should hope that some of the groups would make common
cause with us for the defeat of he ruling elites. Cypherpunks , individually, may judge  as to what groups may be too stupid or
to vile to see the common threat :-)




Yours Truly,
Gary Jeffers

BEAT STATE!!!!

to see how the world really works see:
www.WHATREALLYHAPPENED.COM  and
http://www.skolnicksreport.com/

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www.fame.org

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