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Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 07:34:26 -0500
From: Zooko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [mnet-devel] discussion on infoanarchy.org


There is some discussion on infoanarchy.org.  (See the "comments" section after 
the review.)

http://www.infoanarchy.org/story/2003/2/22/13049/9989

An anonymous poster wrote:

  It's really quite a pity that Mojo Nation croaked. They were just about the
  coolest and most feature-rich system of it's kind, leaving the likes of
  Freenet in the dust. MNet, a scaled back (some might say, "more realistic")
  version of Mojo Nation, is still cool, but it's not nearly as ambitious and,
  as such, I wonder if it will stand out from the crowd or be overlooked as yet
  another P2P net.


Here is a copy of a comment that I just posted:

  Mnet vs. Mojo Nation vs. other systems none / 0 (#5)
  by Zooko on Mon Feb 24th, 2003 at 12:30:14 PM GMT
  (User Info) http://zooko.com/

  In a sense, the reason Mnet v0.6 actually works (for storing and downloading 
  files) is because I've explicitly pursued a policy of eliminating those myriad
  ambitious features from Mojo Nation in order to concentrate on the core goals.
  It's taken over a year to eliminate features and rewrite the core download
  component so that Mnet v0.6 works as well as it does!

  Now that the codebase is smaller and the feature set is reduced and the design
  is simpler I hope user-visible progress can be a little faster. Another reason
  that development is going better nowadays is that we have measurements of the
  behavior of the network. "You can't improve what you can't measure."

  As for Mnet's place in history, I will say first of all that I'm not too
  worried about being overshadowed by other more successful projects. Even if
  Mnet is always obscure, then perhaps the "competitor" projects that become
  really ubiquitous will learn something from Mnet's successes and failures. Or
  perhaps Mnet will just serve as a "backup" in case the more prominent projects
  fail. If the backup is never needed then it was still a worthwhile effort to
  provide it, for safety.

  (This is only with regard to freedom-preserving projects like Freenet and
  GNUnet. I am not at all willing to sit back and allow centralized or
  censorable systems to dominate.)

  Having said that, Mnet is still a very interesting project in 2003. Mnet is
  not a "share my files" system like all of the current popular p2p networks, it
  is a "decentralized filestore" system, like Freenet, Oceanstore, GNUnet, Chord
  File System, and others.

  Among "decentralized filestore" systems I think Mnet and Freenet are the only
  ones that are actually deployed on multiple unrelated end-user machines. (I
  would be happy to learn otherwise.)

  There are lots of exciting developments in the works for the next version of
  Mnet, and if any hackers out there are interested in participating, please
  contact <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. One development that we are particularly
  excited about is interoperating with other networks through standardized
  interfaces.


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