> Kelsey[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> >How ever I wonder if the report of an Apache
> >helicopter being shot down by a farmer with his
> >rifle-the chopper was certainly downed but I find it
> >hard to beleive that a bullet brought it down.
> 
> I heard (I think on BBC) that a whole bunch of the choppers we sent out on
> 
> some mission came back so shot up they were basically unsalvageable.  It 
> sounded like they'd been hit with small arms fire, but I don't know enough
> 
> about the different kinds of helicopters used (I think these were Apaches)
> 
> to know if that's plausible.  Anti-aircraft artillery, SAMs, or those 
> Russian 20mm anti-aircraft machine guns might have done the damage.  Or 
> maybe they really were messed up badly by hundreds of rounds of 7.62 mm, 
> but it sure seems like it would be unhealthy to be one of the people 
> shooting at the helicopters in that situation--like a bunch of people 
> shooting at a lion with .22 pistols or something.   Even if you eventually
> 
> drive the helicopter off, it's going to leave a big pile of bodies behind!
> 
I recently read a military report (I wish I kept the URL) about small arms
fire vs low-flying aircraft. The upshot is that it's a lot more effective
than
you expect, if you have enough guns and the sense to coordinate them to 
create a 'wall of lead' in the area the aircraft is about to fly through.

I expect that a helicopter hovering low over a city is pretty damn
vulnerable. 

Peter Trei

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