On Sep 2, 2009, at 1:08 PM, Dag Sverre Seljebotn wrote: > Stefan Behnel wrote: >> One problem I see here is the current release schedule. We keep >> getting >> more and more away from the "release early, release often" principle. >> Getting 0.12 out in one way or another would finally make all the >> great >> trunk improvements available to regular users.
Yep, I'd like to see releases more often too. >> Thing is: every release >> needs a driver, so that's the first place where we could benefit >> from a >> dedicated helping hand. I mean, Sun pays the Jython project lead, >> even >> full-time. Guido is payed half-time for CPython evolution. I >> wonder if >> there isn't enough commercial interest in Cython by now that could >> express >> itself in contributed project time or financing. A developer day >> invested >> in Cython development can easily pay off by making your own code >> easier to >> write and/or faster to execute. Remember, we write C so you don't >> have to! >> >> (maybe we should put the last two sentences on the front page ;) > > :-) I think they'd fit nicely. +1 > As for commercial interest... well, if nothing else, figuring out > whether anyone's employable and for what tasks (might want to take > that > off-list perhaps) and ask "officially" for monetary donations on the > list would at least give an indication on whether it is the case. > > (I guess we can always solicit for manpower as well, in particular for > "simple" tasks like doc writing and Windows testing as well.) I think we're short manpower, not money, but of course the latter can sometimes be used to obtain for the former. > Making a decision to request donations isn't a trivial issue though -- > one time this was discussed earlier there was concern that having > people > paid (beyond GSoC money) could stifle other contributions and be > seen as > against the current open development nature. It's a very valid > concern, > though in the exact situation we're in now I don't have issues with it > myself. > > Then there's fear of sending a signal that makes people afraid of > Cython > dying if we can't get donations (which isn't true IMO). Yep, it also sends the signal that we're trying to turn this into a money-making venture, which is not the case. It's like GSoC, sometimes funding is needed to free up/justify time that would have had to been spent elsewhere. I also think there's a very different feel to 3rd party X paying person Y to implement/improve a specific Cython feature vs. someone giving Cython money which is then used to "employ" someone to work on the code. Cython's going very well, and I see it continuing no matter what. The main change I would see funding having is someone getting the features they want/need now, instead of whenever we get around to it. - Robert _______________________________________________ Cython-dev mailing list [email protected] http://codespeak.net/mailman/listinfo/cython-dev
