Hi all,
Please accept my grateful thank you to all listers who have helped me solve the puzzle. For those interested, I have determined that the family involved was Salomon and Berta Doregger, the children being Edith and Wilhelm. Salomon was born Abraham Schlomo Donnensaft, changing the family name officially to Doregger in 1910. Berta was born Beile Amster [paternal] or Binder [maternal] and was my mothers aunt. In relation to the other photo mentioned I have determined that Zuza Laub was born Sara Amster [paternal] or Binder [maternal] therefore being another aunt of my mother. Based on these findings I think Koko must have been a diminutive name referring to my grandmother. Thanks once again to all those who have assisted, now I will concentrate on the Grünberg side which has so far been less rewarding. Frank Suss From: Frank Suss [mailto:s...@alphalink.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 7 October 2021 12:48 PM To: 'czernowit...@cornell.edu' Subject: FW: [czernowitz-l] Can anybody help? Subject: RE: [czernowitz-l] Can anybody help? Hi, Further to my original request, after some lateral thinking and more research I have managed to answer my question. The family in question appears to have undergone a change of surname at some stage from Donnensaft to Doregger. I ordered copies of documents which verified my theory, however I would like a translation, if possible, of an addition to these documents which I think confirm the change of name. A request has been made at the following address. https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM95470 Thank you in anticipation, Frank Suss From: bounce-125914723-90243...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-125914723-90243...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Frank Suss Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 12:18 PM To: czernowit...@cornell.edu Subject: [czernowitz-l] Can anybody help? Hi, My name is Frank Suss from Melbourne, Australia. My mother, Edith Suss nee Grünberg, was born in Czernowitz in 1910, the daughter of Isidor (Itzie) Grünberg, born in Korolowka and Regina (Rachel) Amster (paternal) or Binder (maternal), born in Czernowitz. The family moved to Vienna circa mid-decade. Before her death in 2008 I had asked her about her early life however this discussion never eventuated. After the death of my mother, my wife discovered a bag of photographs which we had never seen. Among them are postcards dated variously from 1910,11 and 12 addressed, in German, to either of my grandparents at Springbrünnengasse 42 from a family, I assume on holiday, taken at Franzensbad. What I find infuriating is that only given names are mentioned and I am not sure if there is a family connection, although the wife pictured in these cards appears to bear a resemblance to a photo that I assume is of my grandmother. The attached photo is dated 1910 and the adult names mentioned are Salomon and Berta. From another card I think the girls name may be Edith, the boy unknown. In addition there is another photo, taken in 1962 in Czernowitz, which I have had translated, I think from Romanian, saying, To dear Edith (my mothers name was Edith), beloved of Koko, from her aunt Zuza Laub. I have never been told of Zuza Laub, however the name Koko is mentioned in the previously mentioned postcards. Does anybody know how I may be able to determine who these people are. I have trawled through several genealogy sites with little success, finding my mothers birth certificate, her parents wedding certificate, plus the wedding certificate of my maternal great-grandparents, translation attached, that mentions several siblings of my maternal grandmother. Kind regards, Frank Suss. _____ _____ This moderated discussion group is for information exchange on the subject of Czernowitz and Sadagora Jewish History and Genealogy. 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