Dear Bruce Thanks for your email. I have indeed received some helpful and supportive messages. And I’m glad to receive yours.
I have been using MyHeritage, Ancestry, JewishGen, and Arolsen Archives. I didn’t know about Czernowitz.geneasearch.net but someone told me about it this morning and I already found some new information there! I’ll have to make sure I have been searching Yizkor books and databases, and I’ll also look into familysearch.org. The newspaper archives are also new to me. So, in sum, thanks so much for these tips. They’ll go a long way, I’m sure. As you can tell, I’m new at this, and learning a great deal. It’s fascinating. I will be in Vienna next summer as part of a family trip so I hope to visit some archives and offices in person. But I haven’t tried the online archives related to Vienna, no. I shall have to look into those, too. Thanks again for your kindness in responding, and your encouragement, and your tips. Take care Peter From: Bruce Reisch <bruce.rei...@cornell.edu> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 12:52 PM To: Harris,Peter <peter.har...@colostate.edu>; CZERNOWITZ-L <CZERNOWITZ-L@list.cornell.edu> Subject: Re: [czernowitz-l] Lionora Fischer AND Klara Kirmeier ** Caution: EXTERNAL Sender ** Hi Peter, I haven’t seen responses to your message on the list, but I hope you’re perhaps receiving some messages privately, directly to your email address. When emails come to me from the list, the senders email address isn’t scrubbed, so I hope that’s not been the case for messages received by other email systems. I know that you’ve been on the Yad Vashem site, but I wonder about other sources you’ve used for your research. Have you investigated Yizkor books and databases on JewishGen.org ? For many Czernowitz records, you can find an index on Czernowitz.geneasearch.net and for the vital records included there, you can usually find the original (jpeg) online at familysearch.org . Maybe this is useful, or maybe you’ve already been to these sites? There are also some archival newspaper sources that Edgar often refers to when looking up information in the pre- and post-war periods. Go to this site: https://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/sadgura/ReischToronto.html In Section IV, Historical Newspapers, look at the Full Text Search Option from the Austrian National Library. Vary spellings to try to find instances referring to people and families of interest. Another option is to explore resources via our group’s website: https://czernowitz.ehpes.com<https://czernowitz.ehpes.com/> There are also extensive archival databases related to Vienna – have you gone in that direction for information? I hope something here proves helpful! Bruce From: bounce-128256163-3497...@list.cornell.edu<mailto:bounce-128256163-3497...@list.cornell.edu> <bounce-128256163-3497...@list.cornell.edu<mailto:bounce-128256163-3497...@list.cornell.edu>> on behalf of Harris,Peter <peter.har...@colostate.edu<mailto:peter.har...@colostate.edu>> Date: Friday, June 14, 2024 at 11:08 AM To: CZERNOWITZ-L <CZERNOWITZ-L@list.cornell.edu<mailto:CZERNOWITZ-L@list.cornell.edu>> Subject: [czernowitz-l] Lionora Fischer AND Klara Kirmeier Dear all I hadn’t realized that my email address would be scrubbed from my message to the list, so for anyone interested in discussing the Fisher/Fischer, Baumer, or Tannenbaum/Tenenboim families: my email is peter.har...@colostate.edu<mailto:peter.har...@colostate.edu>. My apologies for the double post. While I'm at it: I'm also trying to find information about a woman called Klara Kirmaier, who lived in Cernauti (Czernowitz) in the late 1930s. My great grandfather was a man named Ludwig Tannenbaum. He was in Vienna in 1938, but was from Czernowitz. I have a document in which he petitioned to emigrate from Austria in 1938 and he lists Klara Kirmaier as his sister, and gives Cernauti as her location. I have managed to find references to a Klara Kirmaier who sent money to Jewish deportees to Transnistria. And I have found a Clara Kirmaier married to Peret Kirmaier, both recorded as having died during the war/Holocaust, leaving behind two orphaned children. But I don't know if these are the same person, or if either of them were sister to Ludwig Tannenbaum. Again, anyone who knows anything about Lionora Fisher/Fischer, the Baumers, the Tannenbaums, and/or Klara Kirmeier - I'd love to hear from you. I'm eager to learn what happened to my relatives who once lived in Czernowitz. Best regards Peter Harris Peter Harris — Associate Professor of Political Science Colorado State University Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> ________________________________ From: Harris,Peter Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2024 8:14:25 AM To: CZERNOWITZ-L <CZERNOWITZ-L@list.cornell.edu<mailto:CZERNOWITZ-L@list.cornell.edu>> Subject: Lionora Fischer Dear all I'm a first-time poster here, so please forgive me if I'm not using the list correctly. Bottom line up-front: I wonder if anyone can help me to find information about a woman called Lionora Fisher (or Fischer), who submitted pages of testimony about my family via Yad Vashem in the 1960s. She is likely deceased by now. But on those pages of testimony, she listed Czernowitz as her place of residence before the Holocaust. My great grandmother was called Lionore Tannenbaum (nee Baumer), also from Czernowitz. She later moved to Miskolc in Hungary and then Vienna. Lionora was murdered at Maly Trostinec. On the Yad Vashem website, there is an entry for her that includes testimony from a woman called Lionora Fisher. I don’t know who Lionora Fisher was, but she obviously knew my great grandmother well enough to submit a page of testimony about her. It seems they were relatives. Perhaps she was even named after her. And as I said, she mentions Czernowitz in her pages of testimony, so I'm assuming she was from a side of the family that remained in Bukovina after others moved west. I have been trying to learn more about Lionora Fisher, but my Internet searches are coming up short. (I found a grave in Haifa that might be hers, but I have no way of knowing.) I thought there’s a small chance that someone on this list might have some ideas. If it helps, my great grandmother’s name is sometimes written as Lionora (“Lola”) Tenenboim. Thanks in advance. I'd be thrilled to discuss this "off list" with anyone who might be interested in chatting. 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