On 1 Dec 2010, at 10:54, Diogo FC Patrao wrote:
> I thought of using oracle-xe and dblinks to federate the RDBS. does  
> d2rq
> allows a table to be called, say, "ext_db.ext_ta...@my_link"?

I have no idea! But if that's a valid table name in Oracle, then D2RQ  
should allow it, and if it doesn't at the moment then I'll fix it.

Richard


>
>
> Diogo F.C. Patrão
> Manager of Medical Informatics
> Biotechnology Laboratory
> Hospital A.C. Camargo
> http://www.accamargo.org.br/
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 8:11 AM, Diogo FC Patrao  
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Hello Richard
>>
>> As for the practical needs I have, ETL seems the way to go,  
>> unfortunately.
>> But I found a good tool (Pentaho community - download it at  
>> sourceforge)
>> that seems very good to design and keep such a repository running.
>>
>> We're starting today a study group on d2rq source to try to  
>> contribute with
>> d2rq, in the sense of fully supporting multiple databases  
>> connection by
>> keeping queries over them separated. Could you suggest some  
>> starting point
>> for us to begin with?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Diogo F.C. Patrão
>> Manager of Medical Informatics
>> Biotechnology Laboratory
>> Hospital A.C. Camargo
>> http://www.accamargo.org.br/
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 7:53 AM, Richard Cyganiak  
>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> On 29 Nov 2010, at 14:13, Diogo FC Patrao wrote:
>>>
>>>> The rewriting engine is not designed to work with multiple DBs, so
>>>>> sometimes it works by accident, but in general it won't.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Do you think that if we configure the query rewriting module to  
>>>> not JOIN
>>>> databases, that would work?
>>>>
>>>
>>> The easiest way of achieving this is running multiple instances of  
>>> D2R
>>> Server.
>>>
>>>
>>> It would certainly be great if D2RQ had that ability. It's an open
>>>>> source project and contributions are always welcome ...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's definitely something I'm interested into, and would gladly  
>>>> give
>>>> some
>>>> of my employee's time to solve. Do you have an idea how exactly  
>>>> to solve
>>>> this? Contact me in pvt if you wish.
>>>>
>>>
>>> This goes into the direction of federated SPARQL queries. There is  
>>> quite a
>>> bit of research already out there, but I don't think that any really
>>> practical solution has been described in the literature yet, so  
>>> solving this
>>> likely requires a fair bit of original research.
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyways, if you want to integrate several data stores, at this point
>>>>> I'd recommend either using the basic federated query feature of  
>>>>> Andy
>>>>> Seaborne's ARQ, or Extract-Transfer-Load them all into one  
>>>>> triple store.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> you mean this ? http://jena.sourceforge.net/ARQ/service.html
>>>>
>>>> So I would have several instances on D2R-Server mapping different
>>>> databases
>>>> to the same ontology, then query them with ARQ using this SERVICE
>>>> statement?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes. As stated on this page, it doesn't do any smart query  
>>> planning, so
>>> essentially you have to do the query planning yourself when  
>>> writing the
>>> query, but at least you can get results. See also:
>>>
>>> http://seaborne.blogspot.com/2007/07/basic-federated-sparql-query.html
>>> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/fed/service (just a draft, I  
>>> think
>>> it's not being further pursued by the working group at this point)
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Richard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> ETL is not the ideal for me, I have several production databases  
>>>> I want
>>>> to
>>>> integrate, and I would avoid dealing with DW updates.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> dfcp
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Richard
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Dr Christian Brenninkmeijer
>>>>>> University of Manchester
>>>>>>
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