Carl Karsten wrote:
> First some definitions.  I looked over what google and 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID had to offer and came up with this:
> 
> guid: Globally unique identifier. A 16-byte identifier.  Guids are most 
> commonly 
> written in text as a sequence of hexadecimal digits with some dashes.
> 
> uniqueidentifier: ms sql column data type, uses 16 bytes.  nice place to 
> store a 
> guid.  for the rest of this discussion, consider it synonymous with guid.
> 
> In VFP and MsSql tools (EM, Profiler, Query Analyzer) guids are always 
> treated 
> like a 36 char string.  I am not sure where (server, client, odbc, vfp, etc) 
> the 
> translation takes place between 16 bytes and 36 chars.  my guess from 
> observations: it is not the server,
> 
> The reason I bring this up:
> 
> Save Failed:
> internal error: None
> SQL: update Counters set Counters.nCounter = 5 where 
> Counters.kCounters_pk='15?'ÒC²ÕñܾS¤¤'
> 
> I think the framework should take care of translating that into it's hex 
> representation, complete with dashes, per the wikipedia description.
> 
> Now the kicker: python has nice support for human readable versions of things 
> that are not human readable.
> 
> "The str() function is meant to return representations of values which are 
> fairly human-readable, while repr() is meant to generate representations 
> which 
> can be read by the interpreter (or will force a SyntaxError if there is not 
> equivalent syntax). For objects which don't have a particular representation 
> for 
> human consumption, str() will return the same value as repr()."  - 
> http://docs.python.org/tut/node9.html
> 
> And because it is related:
> "The pprint module provides a capability to ``pretty-print'' arbitrary Python 
> data structures in a form which can be used as input to the interpreter. If 
> the 
> formatted structures include objects which are not fundamental Python types, 
> the 
> representation may not be loadable." 
> http://docs.python.org/lib/module-pprint.html
> 
> So, I can see a case for leaving the internal value of a guid as a 16 byte 
> number, and hook into __str__ and __repr__ for display purposes.
> 
> This may be worth considering in regards to support for images.  It would be 
> nice to display the header info:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/dabo/trunk/dabo/dabo/icons$ identify daboIcon096.png
> daboIcon096.png PNG 128x128 128x128+0+0 PseudoClass 256c 6kb
> 
> Images is pretty far off of the guid subject, but I think worth considering 
> as 
> part of the guid display problem.
> 
> So, given all this fluff, what seems to be in line with the dabo way?
> 
> I am sure someone will say "why not use the guid module" and give the the URL 
> I 
> couldn't find.
> 
> Carl K
> 

Don't know how this exactly is related to dabo.
But i know that there are different implementations which are used in
databases to generate such numbers.

So maybe this is of further interest for you:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UUID

There is also a link to a python module:
http://docs.python.org/lib/module-uuid.html
http://zesty.ca/python/uuid.html

Uwe

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