On 11/18/06, Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Nov 18, 2006, at 11:53 AM, Steven Holt wrote:
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> > How does Zope compare with Dabo?  I understand that Dabo is a stab at
> > implementing the database functionality of VFP in python.  Is Zope
> > simply a completely different implementation of database functionality
> > in python?  It seems much more to be more web server oriented.
>
>         Zope/Plone are web application servers. Dabo is a desktop
> application framework. They really don't compare at all, except that
> they are all written in Python.
>
> > I also see that the Dabodev's wiki is run in zwiki and there is a
> > message that access has been modified due to spamming so I'm wondering
> > if this is being done under plone or some other methodology.
>
>         I just changed the ability to edit a page to only authenticated
> users. If someone wants to edit the wiki, they just let me know and I
> add a basic login for them.
>
> > Is there any downside to zwiki or any other wiki software anyone
> > particularly prefers?  I'm particularly interested in systems that are
> > SEO friendly as a primary evaluation criterion, which is what
> > brought me
> > to Plone in the first place.
>
>         Frankly, I already had Zope running, so when I wanted to add a
> wiki,
> ZWiki seemed like an obvious choice. So far it's been fine.
>
> > Finally, is there a way for Plone to play nice with Dabo rather than
> > Zope or is there simply no compelling reason to want it to do so?
> > Sorry if these questions are horribly naive and too far off topic.
>
>         The questions are fine. The confusion lies in the fact that
> everyone
> is creating web-based tools, and nobody is paying attention to
> desktop development. While web apps are much sexier these days, there
> are still large numbers of businesses who run on desktop apps, and
> who don't want web apps, no matter what you can do with AJAX, etc.
>
>         We have focused on the desktop. The others are pretty much all
> focused on the web.


As much as people predict that web application will take over Desktop apps,
this is a trend that I just don't see happening.  Desktop applications will
always remain.  Because of applications like Zope and Djanago, I think that
people have a large misconception of python being a web oriented language
like PHP.  Before Dabo came along, I could develop Desktop Application just
as quickly as I could develop in C# with .NET.  These apps ran just as well
as there counterparts and for the most part I didn't have to change a single
line of code to get them to be cross platform.  Now that Dabo has come
along, productivity in building the GUI and linking it to a database has
skyrocketed.  Even if you just use the GUI section without the other two,
Dabo is and will continue to be the premiere framework in Python for
deployable enterprise level applications.

Zope and Django are great products in themselves (I personally use them),
but Dabo fills a void that Python was lacking for many years.

-- Ed Leafe
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My $.02.

Cheers,

Nate L.


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