Paul McNett wrote:
> Carl Karsten wrote:
>> If they do want to use the pattern, I will be happy to make the changes.
> 
> I get the feeling that you will use the pattern in any case, so it won't 

Maybe.  I am also looking for advice, and given that Ed says "try it this way" 
I'll give it a whirl, even though Ed's comments don't have me sold.  "here, 
drink this cool-aid!"  glug glug glug....

> be a huge thing to get them into Dabo in the future if we all of a 
> sudden see the light, smack our collective foreheads, and exclaim 
> "i-layer! i-layer! Bring back the i-layer! Get me Carl Karsten!". :)
> 
> 
>> Actually, one of the reasons I want this pattern is so I can make changes 
>> and 
>> submit* them, and if they are rejected, I can keep using them for my apps. 
>> (*submit as in show and discuss, not submit a patch.  once the change is 
>> approved,then there would be a 'move' step to integrate the change in the 
>> dabo 
>> base classes.)  Some key parts of the VFE framework lived in my i-layer for 
>> over 
>> a year.
> 
> The best way to see and discuss changes is through patches that we can 
> merge into our working copies and see them in action. The best way to 
> apply changes is via the patch as well.
> 
> There are also features of Subversion that you could use as well. Say 
> you modified code in some Dabo class somewhere and then did 'svn 
> update'. If the update conflicted (in location of the updated change) 
> with your change then Subversion raises a flag, and makes several copies 
> of the conflicting file marking the changed state so you can deal with 
> it. This also includes rendering the actual .py file useless, so you are 
> in fact forced to deal with it. I know this isn't the same as what you 
> are talking about with the i-layer, but it does appear to touch on at 
> least part of it. Python/Dabo combined with Subversion is a pretty 
> killer combo.
> 
> 

by killer you mean killing time? :)

It is that "forced" that I am trying to avoid.

Funny thing is in the VFE world they only released updates about once every... 
um... I really don't want to say :)  just consider the case that would make it 
very ironic.

Carl K

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