On Saturday 16 February 2008 02:44:46 pm Michael Hipp wrote:
> johnf wrote:
> > On Saturday 16 February 2008 01:43:12 pm Michael Hipp wrote:
> >> How does the UI, bizobj and database layer in Dabo cope with screens,
> >> business rules and database queries that span multiple tables and
> >> records? Can anyone point me to some example code that shows how Dabo
> >> handles this?
> >>
> >> Lots of "models" appear to be somewhat cast in what I call the 1:1:1
> >> syndrome (i.e. each screen holds one record from one table that is
> >> governed by one set of business logic).
> >>
> >> How do the layers of dabo handle the (frequent) case where one screen
> >> may have fields (hidden or otherwise) that span multiple tables, thereby
> >> spanning multiple sets of business logic and so on.
> >>
> >> ... probably clear as mud ...
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Michael
> >
> > Right clear as mud!
> > I think what you are saying is how does Dabo deal with one to many data
> > setups.  Great!  To my knowledge there is no limit on the number of child
> > tables a parent can have.  What ever you can setup using SQL I'm sure
> > Dabo can handle.
> >
> > I have several forms that have many children (or a relationship I create
> > using SQL) which means I have many different fields from different tables
> > on my forms.  On the same forms I use tables (lookups, meta data,
> > combobox source) that I use to supply the data that are not children of
> > the parent.
> >
> > Hidden fields?  I think you mean fields that are not displayed on the
> > screen. All the fields are available that you define.  Dabo even has a
> > virtual field that can be defined.
> >
> > Business logic?  Do you mean can Dabo validate input - yes.  If you mean
> > will Dabo determine some special need (like if I add "A" there has to a
> > "B" and "C" that exist) you most likely will require that you write
> > special code. Of course if you can define it in the database - that's
> > always better.
>
> Thanks, John.
>
> I believe you answered my question. But just to make sure...
>
> The problem with a lot of frameworks is that they have wonderful save()
> and load() methods and such. But as soon as save() needs to work on
> multiple tables (or even multiple records at one time within one table)
> then all of a sudden the built-in helpers are no help and you're back to
> writing fully custom SQL and managing transactions and such as if there
> was no framework at all.
>
> Knowing that lots of my stuff is just like this, will I be glad I'm in
> Dabo or will it seem like I'm just back to making calls to psycopg2 on
> my own?
>
> Thanks,
> Michael

Dabo saves all your changes including children fields.  That said there will 
always be situations where you will have to code something.  For example, I 
have a special virtual field that provides information on changes that could 
effect other tables not part of my form.  I have to write code that will 
update those tables.  I choose the do it that way because it doesn't happen 
often.  I could have added them to the form and had Dabo handle it.

I don't mind answering your questions.  But how about telling us what you have 
in mind for Dabo.  I think we will be honest enough to tell if Dabo will 
work.



-- 
John Fabiani


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