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THE DAFYOMI DISCUSSION LIST brought to you by Kollel Iyun Hadaf of Yerushalayim Rosh Kollel: Rabbi Mordecai Kornfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] [REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE TO DISCUSS THE DAF WITH THE KOLLEL] ________________________________________________________________ Re: GENERAL: Shabbos Greeting TJ asked: >>1) What is the earliest known source for specifically the greeting "Shabbat >>Shalom" or "Shabbat Shalom u'Mevorach" that is so common among Sefaradim; >>where do these terms first appear? The Kollel replied: >>(1) This is an interesting question which I have never really thought about >>before. However I suspect that these greetings are quite new and do not have >>a source in classical Hebrew. I have found a slight support for my assertion >>in the amendments of Rabbi Akiva Eiger to the Shulchan Aruch OC 271:1 end DH >>Sham Be'd v'K'm who writes that to fulfil the Biblical commandment of Kidush >>- sanctifying Shabbos - it would seem that it is sufficient merely to mention >>Shabbos and to say "Shabta Tavta". The words "Shabta Tava" are the same as >>saying in Yiddish "Gut Shabbos" (in fact I suspect that where R. Akiva Eiger >>lived they said Gut Shabbos but he is just translating the spoken terms into >>the Hebrew used in the Shulchan Aruch). What we do seem to see from R. Akiva >>Eiger is that they did not say Shabat Shalom. >>However I did find in Sefer Gesher Hachayim (21:7:4, page 244), written by R. >>Yechiel Michal Tukutchinski in 5707, that he discusses the greetings one >>gives to mourners on Shabbos and writes that the prevalent custom was to say >>Shabbat Shalom to mourners after the first 30 days. However that was written >>not so long ago when Ivrit was already quite prevalent. ---------- Jacob Aryeh Feuchtwanger adds: Please look at the Or Hachayim in this weeks Parsha on the Possuk "Ish Immo ve-oviv tiro-u ve-es Shabsosai tishmoru ani Hashem". In the middle of a long text on this possuk the paragraph starting "Ve la-ze hirvachnu etc." the Or Hachayim explains why on Shabbos one says "Shabbat Shalom" and why we say at Maariv "Ufros Oleinu Succas Slomecha" Yours sincerely, Yaakov Feuchtwanger >>><><><>><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><<< The *D*AFYOMI *A*DVANCEMENT *F*ORUM, brought to you by Kollel Iyun Hadaf Write to us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit us at http://www.dafyomi.co.il Fax(US):(206) 202-0323; Fax(Isr): (02) 591-6024; Tel(Isr): (02) 651-5004 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.8/1413 - Release Date: 5/3/2008 11:22 AM _______________________________________________ Daf-discuss mailing list Daf-discuss@shemayisrael.co.il http://mailman.shemayisrael.com/mailman/listinfo/daf-discuss_shemayisrael.co.il