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Re: Yoma 072: Urim v'Tumim

Michoel Friedman asked:

>> When were they used? For what matters were they consulted? It would seem
>> that most often they were used in the context of battle--is there
>> significance to that? <<

The Kollel replied:

>> You remark that they seem to have been consulted mainly in the context
>> of battle. This is not surprising, as the Gemara in B'rachos 3b. implies
>> that they would not go to war without first consulting the Urim ve'Tumim.

There is a famous explanation of the G'ra, according to which Eli ha'Kohen
consulted the Urim ve'Tumim about Chanah, whose lips he saw moving in
prayer but no sound coming from her mouth. In response, the letters
'Kesheirah' or 'ke'Sarah' lit up (according to the Rambam, they would have
protruded), but Eli misread the letters as 'Shikorah'.  I am not sure in
what capacity Eli consulted the Urim ve'Tumim for something so trivial, but
in any event, it wasn't for war. <<

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Mordechai Schwimmer comments:

Regarding the capacity in which Eli HaKohen consulted the Urim ve'Tumim
about Chanah, the G'ra himself provides the answer and an explanation.

In Kol Eliyahu #153 (Shmuel I) where the G'ra relates the cited incident,
he first quotes the Ramban to Shemot 28:30, that there was another Efod, an
Efod Bad, and then the G'ra continues and states that the restrictions to
consult the Urim ve'Tumim enumerated in Yoma 71b do *not* apply to the Efod
Bad.

The G'ra further explains that Eli HaKohen knew that Chanah was a righteous
woman, and therefore her seemingly strange behavior puzzled him, prompting
him to consult the Urim ve'Tumim (of the Efod Bad).

be'Kavod u'Brachah

Mordechai Schwimmer

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The Kollel replies:

Thank you.  The Vilna Gaon adds that many of the Bnei Nevi'im or Kohanim
would wear an Efod Bad, which sometimes provided them with correct answers
through Nevu'ah.

MK


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