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THE DAFYOMI DISCUSSION LIST brought to you by Kollel Iyun Hadaf of Yerushalayim Rosh Kollel: Rabbi Mordecai Kornfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] [REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE TO DISCUSS THE DAF WITH THE KOLLEL] ________________________________________________________________ Re: Ta'anis 008: Praying for more than one thing Gedaliah asked: It is my understanding that one can add both a prayer for forgiveness and for livelihood in the daily shema-kolenu, which fits well with the explanation given, but in my yom kippur machzor, for example, the kedushah of mussaf says we can insert ONLY ONE personal prayer for EITHER sustenance, divine inspiration, OR righteous children. Why only one prayer here? much appreciation... Gedaliah ------------------------------- The Kollel replies: I have been unable to find the reference you mention in the Yom Kipur Machzorim that one should not insert more than one personal prayer, and I would be grateful if you could let me know in which Machzor this is cited. However, my conjecture is that the reason for the above might possibly be nothing to do with our Gemara. The issue here may be a different one. There is a bit of discussion among the commentaries whether on Rosh Hashanah one should make personal requests in the Tefilah. See Kuntres Avodas ha'Tefilah on Rosh Hashanah by Rabbi Mayer Birnbaum Shlita of Passaic, NJ p.36 (in the Hebrew edition) note 40 who cited the Magid Tzedek from which it appears that one should not make any additional requests on Rosh Hashanah, apart from those that Chazal instituted, which are chiefly asking that the whole world should recognize the kingdom of Heaven. On p.37 he cited the Shelah ha'Kadosh who says the same thing. However, in contrast, he also reports that Rav Chaim Kanievsky Shlita wrote in the name of the Chazon Ish that Rosh Hashanah was fixed in order to make any requests that one wants. Yom Kipur is also the Day of Judgement and the principal Mitzvah of the day is to ask for forgiveness for our sins. Therefore it may be that even according to the commentaries who permit making personal requests on Yom Kipur, nevertheless they also agree that one should try and limit this. This might be the reason that the Machzor says one should only insert one personal prayer. Kol Tuv, D. Bloom >>><><><>><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><<< The *D*AFYOMI *A*DVANCEMENT *F*ORUM, brought to you by Kollel Iyun Hadaf Write to us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit us at http://www.dafyomi.co.il Fax(US):(206) 202-0323; Fax(Isr): (02) 591-6024; Tel(Isr): (02) 651-5004 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.12/655 - Release Date: 1/28/2007 _______________________________________________ Daf-discuss mailing list Daf-discuss@shemayisrael.co.il http://mailman.shemayisrael.com/mailman/listinfo/daf-discuss_shemayisrael.co.il