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Re: Bava Metzia 085: Rebbi Chiya and sons vs. the Avos

HG Schild <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> asked:
>The Gemara says there R. Chiya and sons are 3 equal to the Avos...does
>anyone say who is who?


Yitzchok Zirkind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: 

The Lkutei Torah of the Baal Hatanya, in the Parshas Hashovua in which the
question was asked (Parshas Rei) in the Drush on vSamti Kadchod the 2nd he
explains this Gemara that Rabbi Chiya corresponds to Yaakov Avinu and that
is why he is called Rabi "Chiya" as we find that "Yaakov Lo Mess," and his
2 sons which the Gemara says in M"K 25a that Yehuda is from the right and
Chizkiya is from the left, correspond to Yehuda =Yemin = Chesed = Avrohom
Avinu, and Chizkiya = S'mol = Gvurah = Yitzchok Avinu. 

I wrote this to the one who asked the question privately, and in response
to this he wrote me back that in the Shaarei Zohar from R"R Margoliyas on
Bava Basra 75 he quotes R"Y Engel in his Kuntres Shev D'nechemta, that says
that Rabi Chiya is known to correspond to Yaakov, and brings the same
Gemara from M"K to explain his 2 sons. (w/o mentioning the Lkutei Torah or
the Idea of the name Chiya). 

I just want to add that while it says in the Possuk by Avrohom Avinu
"Vayishmor...vSorosy" and also the "Shnei Alofim Torah" begin with "vEs
Hanefesh Asher Osu" which says by Avrohom Avinu, nonetheless WRT the 3
Amudim of Torah Avodah and Gmilus Chassodim, Avrohom Avinu represents GM"C,
and Yaakov is Torah (also Al Pi Kabalah Tiferes is Torah), hence Rabi Chiya
who was Toros Umnoso and called Marbitz Torah and Gdolim Maasei Chiya are
in the Kav of Torah, corresponds to Yaakov Avinu Ish Tom Yoshev Oholim Ohel
of Shem which represents Torah Shebiksav (Kol Htorah Shmosov Shel HKB"H)
and Eiver which represents Torah Shebaal Peh, "Ksuvim Mishnei Evreihem"
which adds TSPB. 

Kol Tuv, 
Yitzchok Zirkind

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