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Re: Sanhedrin 071: Bas Sorer and Moreh
Shabtai Nacson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> asked:
>>The Posuk says Ben and not Bat, Rashi says if not for the Posuk, she
>>would be killed (Tamuth Zakai and not Hyab)because she would committe
>>zenuth whereas in the case of a man he would end up killing during
>>attempt to steal. The question was asked by Rabbi Bennette she is not
>>haybet metha even if she take the profession of a zonah ( it is assure
>>but not metha)?<<
The Kollel wrote:
>>The intention of the Gemara is simply that we fear that he will learn
>>wicked ways, which will be bad for both him and for the rest of society.
>>The same fear applies to a Bas, for the reason that Rashi gives.<<
Mark Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> adds:
Please note that some of the Meforshim do discuss why he gets Sekilah for a
potential murder, e.g. Daas Zekenim MiBaalei Tosfos connects to Mekallel
Oviv V'Imo, Sifsei
Chachomim says he might murder on Shabbos, etc. According to them,
especially Sifsei Chachomim, the question would arise. Maybe we could say
that she might come to do a znus that is Chayav Misa (e.g. with a relation
etc) ?
Mark Bergman
Manchester UK
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The Kollel replies:
Thank you, Mark. The Kollel in fact discussed the various opinions in the
Rishonim about "Al Shem Sofo" in the Insights to Daf 72a.
According to those who say it the Ben Sorer will be Mekalel Aviv v'Imo, the
same obviously applies to a girl. And according to the others, as you say,
there is always the possibility that she will get married and then
transgress the Isur of Eshes Ish. According to what we wrote there in the
name of the Maharal in Gur Aryeh, it is clear that the same can apply to a
girl.
Thanks,
M. Kornfeld
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