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Re: Sanhedrin 095: Question on Insights to the Daf
The Kollel wrote:
>>(b) The Givonim demanded revenge, not compensation. (Because of this evil
>>trait Chazal prohibited them to marry into the nation, see Yevamos 79a.)
>>Therefore the Kidush Hashem could only be accomplished by giving them
>>what they wanted, on their terms.
(c) Good suggestion!<<
Yakov Astor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> asked:
Dear Rabbi Kornfeld,
First, yashar koach on your work. I've just joined up but was inspired by
your insights already, and hope to perhaps comment and/or ask questions.
(a) Regarding the below responses, however, I think more clarity is needed.
Like
the questioner, I've also always not understood that chazal about the
Givonim and why it is a kiddush hashem, or if it is why 7 people have to be
murdered for it to come about. What happened to chai bahem, or pushing aside
Torah to save a life except for avoda zara, gilui arayos, shvichos damim and
shmad? What does this fall under? Just because the Givonim demanded revenge
in the form of killing Jews who themselves had done no wrong doesn't mean we
should give in to them.
(b) Second, the answer of shooting the foot of the bird seems to violate tzaar
baalei chayim.
In general, these issues still seem muddeneh to me.
If you have any further insights I would be grateful if you could share
them.
Kol tuv,
Yaakov Astor
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(a) The story of the Givonim was a Hora'as Sha'ah, based on Nevu'ah (see
Yevamos 79a, Rishonim in Tanach; see Yevamos 91b for an explanation of
"Hora'as Sha'ah.")
(b) Good point.
M. Kornfeld
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