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Re: Moed Katan 028: Chasan sitting at the head
The Kollel replied:
>>The source for the rule of "Chasan Domeh l'Melech" is a Midrash (Pirkei
>>d'Rebbi Eliezer). It
is not mentioned in the Gemara.<<
Joel Schnur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> adds:
Your mentioning of "choson dome l'melech" affords me the opportunity to
share with your readership a mistaken impression that the olam may have in
regard to the inyan of people standing when the choson comes down the aisle.
Many think/say that it is because of "choson dome l'melech" that they are
getting up yet they should be aware that Rav Moshe Feinstein never stood
because he used to say, "doi-meh (L)melech NOT (Ki)melech. (Watch his sons
or talmidim muvhakim at the next chasuhah.)
Reb Yaakov Kamenetsky stood but for a totally different reason. The question
of L'melech or K'melech never entered into consideration as the "choson" is
not a true choson until AFTER the chuppah. Reb "Yankev" stood purely because
of the mishna in Bikurim, perek gimmel, mishnah gimmel, that discusses the
bringing of bikurim and the rule of standing "lif-nai oisei mitzva" and
since the choson is entering into a chupah which will enable him to be
mekayeim the mitzvah of pe'ru u'revu, we stand. The Rav expands on this and
brings down the inyan of standing for nosei mais and ma'vee tinok l'bris. We
are therefore not standing for the mais or the kvatter, which is a mistaken
impression, but for the people involved in doing the mitzva, the oisei
mitzvah. As to why we don't stand for everyone doing a mitzvah, it's for a
miztvah that is mei-kama zman l'zman, not a regular occurrence (see nosei
kalim).
The question remains as to a justification for why people stand for the
kallah since she is not K' malka (see rav Moshe and Reb Yaakov above) and is
patur from mitzvas peru u'revu. Rav Avraham Kamentsky, Rav Yaakov's son,
told me that one can say that since the choson cannot be mekayeim the
mitzvah without her, she has a chelek in the mitzvah and thus qualifies for
"lif-nai oisei mitzvah." He also said that his late father used to say that
the best thing you can do for someone is to provide them with a new thought
that takes them to a new/higher derech. In the Rosh Yeshiva's zehus, may we
be zocheh.
Kol Tuv and keep up the wonderful work of being marbitz Torah l'rabim.
Joel Schnur
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