On Jun 14, 2011, at 5:08 PM, Dave Aitel wrote:

> And you find yourself asking: Now how can that possibly be the case?

$2 billion (or whatever) spent on software security?

As you know, it doesn't mean that they are not there, just that Microsoft has 
made the ROI for vulnerability researchers too small to justify spending an 
increasing amount of time on finding vulnerabilities. Although, I could have 
sworn there was a remote on a security appliance or two in the past two years.

Of course, I think you need to expand your definition of remote these days. How 
is social engineering + client exploit not greater than or equal to a remote 
server vulnerability from a functional level? The former gets you inside the 
firewall, the latter -- not necessarily.

-R

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