On Jul 7, 2011, at 6:40 AM, J.A. Terranson wrote:

> These old virtual routing platforms are cheap, easy to find on ebay or 
> ebay-like sales arenas, and if stacked in the hundreds could *easily* 
> simulate many hundreds of thousands of routers, while server farms cab be 
> injected at appropriate points to simulate the "local networks" residing 
> on these routers.


What they don't allow one to do is to launch attacks and test their effects on 
actual, modern, hardware-based routers and layer-3 switches.  

The viability of software-based Internet edge routers ended 7-8 years ago; any 
organization still relying on software-based edge routers can be taken down 
with a trivial DDoS attack, so no stress-testing of such architectures is 
really required, heh.

Also, the use of software-based routers/switches limits the attack bandwidth 
(bps) and throughput (pps) which can be utilized; this seriously limits the 
scope of resilience testing with regards to DDoS attacks.

On a side note, I've generally found that non-ironic use of the appellation 
'cyber-' to be inversely proportional to actual security clue.  Therefore, I'd 
urge the really smart folks at Breakingpoint and other knowledgeable folks to 
avoid using the term 'cyber-range'; 'attack lab', 'testbed', et. al. are more 
descriptive and accurate, and don't carry the taint of Big Security hand-waving.

;>

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