Sorry about the top post - just a general comment. Joel Brenner's "America the Vulnerable: Inside the New Threat Matrix of Digital Espionage, Crime, and Warfare" is infuriating and saddening. It does not have to be th US - nearly any country will do.
Jeff On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Dave Aitel <[email protected]> wrote: > HARWOOD: Governor Romney, was it a mistake for Governor Schwarzenegger to > hire the firm in China to build portions of that bridge? > > ROMNEY: Well, that's a -- a long answer to that, because what China is doing > is not playing fairly by the rules that exist in our -- in the WTO and the > world. China is, on almost every dimension, cheating. And we've got to > recognize that. It is good for America... > > (APPLAUSE) > > ROMNEY: It is good for America to have free trade. It is good for us to be > able to send our goods and services around the word and vice versa. > > HARWOOD: So a good decision to build the bridge over there? > > ROMNEY: That is normally a good thing. But China is playing by different > rules. One, they are stealing intellectual property. Number two, they're > hacking into our computer systems, both government and corporate. And they > are stealing, by virtue of that as well, from us. > > And finally, they are manipulating their currency, and by doing so, holding > down the price of Chinese goods, and making sure their products are > artificially low-priced. It's predatory pricing, it's killing jobs in > America. > > If I'm president of the United States, I'm making it very clear, I love free > trade. I want to open markets to free trade. But I will crack down on > cheaters like China. They simply cannot continue to steal our jobs. > > (APPLAUSE) > > Read > more: http://thepage.time.com/2011/11/10/cnbc-transcript-of-your-money-your-vote-republican-presidential-debate/#ixzz1dJq8jZU7 > > > GINGRICH: Well, there are two things here. And let me say in advance that I > would yield in part to Governor Huntsman, because he speaks fluent Chinese, > he has worked in China, and he's been the ambassador. And I'd be curious to > get his reaction. > > But there are two different parts here. The problem with building the bridge > is simple. What -- what is it about American regulations, American taxation, > American labor cost and attitudes that makes it cheaper to go to China than > to go to the United States? Now, we... > > (APPLAUSE) > > ... first of all, you've got to decide, how are we going to be more > competitive and how are we going to be the lowest cost? And there's a new > Boston consultant (ph) that says, by 2015, South Carolina and Alabama will > be cheaper than the Chinese coastal provinces to manufacturing. > > Second, in terms of dealing with China strategically, I think we're going to > have to find ways to dramatically raise the pain level for the Chinese > cheating, both in the hacking side, but also on the stealing and > intellectual property side. And I don't think anybody today has a > particularly good strategy for doing that. > > Read > more: http://thepage.time.com/2011/11/10/cnbc-transcript-of-your-money-your-vote-republican-presidential-debate/#ixzz1dJqHbruk _______________________________________________ Dailydave mailing list [email protected] https://lists.immunityinc.com/mailman/listinfo/dailydave
