Trying really hard not to not participate here...but doesn't the EFF's 0-day position conflict with their EU "hacking tools" position?
https://www.eff.org/sites/default/files/filenode/Submission-Parliament-Hacking-Tools-vf.pdf See the "No Criminalization of Tools" section: "The draft Directive should not criminalize the creation, possession and distribution of tools that are fundamentally designed for the purpose of carrying out an attack." I can't read, but hopefully someone else can figure out what their stance is there. On Thu, 2012-08-16 at 11:17 +0545, Ben Nagy wrote: > On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Dr. Sandro Gaycken > <[email protected]> wrote > [SNIP! MERCIFUL BISHNU! SNIP IT ALL!] > > Henceforth, I respond, if at all, exclusively in sarcastic couplets. > > "The 0day and the Ivory Tower" > > Said Doctor One to Doctor Two, these 0days are a bore > I read about them just last year! They're too scary to ignore! > Said Doctor Two to Doctor One I know just what to do - > A brilliant plan from me and you, to save the whole EU! > > With just 20 million Euro from each of 20 trusted friends, > we'll find the bugs and fix them all, then APT will end! > Of course the plan will never work without a total ban > on coding and compilers (unless we say they can) > > But how on earth, said Doctor One, can governments be showed > that individual liberty is worth less than some code? > > Gentlemen! Said Doctor Three, (he enters from the rear) > By my scraggy beard and ponytail, well I can help you there! > We'll simply call them cyberarms, to strike their hearts with fear, > and speak of Arabs killing folk, and such and such, all clear? > > A cunning plot, good Doctor Three, but surely you recall > their allies in the USA, and justice there, for all? > Oh, don't mind us, said EFF, we're not as staid as that > Just let us sign a bill or two, this whole thing's in the hat! > > So black was white and white was black > And code was arms, no-one could hack > > The Doctors published articles, they gained respect and friends > And then got owned by clicking on > A VBS > > The End > > > > Baby seals, > > ben > > -- > " Invididual security comes from impact containment, not patching bugs." > _______________________________________________ > Dailydave mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.immunityinc.com/mailman/listinfo/dailydave -- Jon Oberheide <[email protected]> GnuPG Key: 1024D/F47C17FE Fingerprint: B716 DA66 8173 6EDD 28F6 F184 5842 1C89 F47C 17FE
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