To suggest its impossible seems to fly in the face of what has happened (see NSA and Boeing/Airbus). http://www.economist.com/node/1842124
I'm not saying its anything like the Chinese deal, but the NSA is involved in US companies economic health. -- Adam On Jun 26, 2013, at 9:53 AM, Dave Aitel <[email protected]> wrote: > http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/opinion/2013-06/26/content_16659265.htm > > Normally I don't like to stick my toe in the neutron star's gravity well that > is the NSA-Snowden discussion. But it's important to point out that there are > developing standards of behavior being negotiated not between China and the > US, but between corporations and governments as a whole. > > Chinese media has been going on for a week about how the Snowden PRISM > revelations about the US hacking China are in some way equitable to the US > complaints about Chinese government sponsored hacking for the purposes of > economic espionage. This is pure public relations nonsense. The complaints US > industry has about Chinese state sponsored hacking is not that it is > occurring, but that the fruits of the hacking are being given directly to > Chinese companies which compete with US (or European, or Korean, etc.) > companies. > > It is impossible as a US company to go to the NSA and say "Hey, my competitor > in China makes a pretty nice bulldozer, can I have the plans to that? Also > it'd be nice to know what their bid is on that contract in Malaysia we both > want to win." > > It's just that simple. Company's hate being forced to give information to > their governments, or trojan their networking equipment (in the case of > Huawei and ZTE). It's bad for business. Especially when you get caught or it > gets leaked (which it ALWAYS does one way or the other). > > But they hate state-sponsored economic espionage more and I hardly think > Chinese companies would enjoy a change in Washington's tune that allowed US > companies to employ the full power of the NSA against them. > > -dave > > _______________________________________________ > Dailydave mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.immunityinc.com/mailman/listinfo/dailydave
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