Funny. No mention of compliance.
It hit me about a week ago, fewer and fewer people are talking compliance. Fraud and Spook, are coming up a lot more. Are we growing - If just a little? John On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 5:24 PM, Anton Chuvakin <[email protected]> wrote: > So far, I've shoved this most excellent post in quite a few faces .... and > will shove in more :-) > > I often wonder whether those same people who equate infosec/"cyber" with > fraud (and there are plenty, sadly - not on *this* enlightened list of > course :-)) and thus want to "solve cyber", also want to "solve theft", > "solve murder", "solve greed", etc, etc, etc. > > Ah, here goes one more: "... we don't need security, we don't handle > credit card numbers here" .... > > > On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 6:10 AM, Dave Aitel <[email protected]> wrote: > >> So much of security is driven by "fraud" and coming from a spook >> background as many people on this list do, I find it annoying. >> RSA-the-conference-and-meme is one of those markets that just baffles a >> lot of people who come from the government space. How is any of that >> stuff possibly worth so much money? >> >> "Fraud" is partially the answer I think. Things that come from the fraud >> world are as alien to spook-world as a giant ant-eater is to North >> America. At some level defeating Fraud is about hygiene, more than >> security. It's about valuing information in fungible units defined by >> "Credit Cards" or "Users" and not by "importance". >> >> But climates can change and we are at the cusp of that change. If you >> look at how Google Wallet or ApplePay work, they have the major >> advantage in that they already know what you want to buy before you buy >> it, and they know where you are at all times, so fraud is going to get >> exponentially more difficult. It may, in fact, become impossible. >> Imagine if consumer Fraud went extinct? Is this harder to imagine than a >> world without woolly mammoths? >> >> Companies have learned this year from Sony Pictures that protecting >> yourself against nation-states is the difference between surviving and >> not surviving, and that doing so requires a completely different >> corporate design than they're used to. FraudWorld has been invaded by >> SpookWorld. >> >> Good times! :) Of course, I can't end without saying that if you want to >> see what the climate is going to look like, what the swamp creatures >> about to invade tend to eat, then you have to come down to the >> Everglades and see us at INFILTRATE. >> >> -dave >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Dailydave mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.immunityinc.com/mailman/listinfo/dailydave >> >> > > > -- > Dr. Anton Chuvakin > Site: http://www.chuvakin.org > Twitter: @anton_chuvakin <https://twitter.com/anton_chuvakin> > Work: http://www.linkedin.com/in/chuvakin > > _______________________________________________ > Dailydave mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.immunityinc.com/mailman/listinfo/dailydave > >
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