On 12 Aug 2015, at 21:39, Dave Aitel <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Trains. We don't have any in the United States. You might have to go to 
> Shanghai to find one with enough networking equipment to hack. WHAT IF YOU 
> CHANGED THE SPEED TO THE SAME AS AN AMTRACK? Patriotic, or irresponsible? 
> Let's let Wired decide?

Dave, please don't suggest that... in Europe, and in China because of the 
technology they "joint-ventured", we use a system called ERTMS2 
(https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Rail_Traffic_Management_System).

This now runs some of the most recent high-speed lines, I believe the first one 
activated was the Rome-Naples in Italy, and its security was allegedly tested 
amidst several issues due to the carrying of "weapons" (i.e. pentesting tools) 
on laptops.

The whole system is based on GSM-R, the railway version of GSM at 900MHz (EU 
frequency for GSM). This might also be food for thought for some readers.

Most readers on this list know where this will probably end and I don't think 
recommending stunt-hacking an ETR500 running at 300kph to Naples or a loaded 
TGV en route to Strasbourg is particularly smart.

Adding to it China and their Alstom/Bombardier clones is hardly smarter, smilie 
or no smilie.

Continue playing with your cars and guns in your mostly empty spaces. Perhaps 
consider playing with your planes over the Nevada Test Site?

Cheers,

Arrigo 

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