>>>>> "TF" == Tony Finch <[email protected]> writes:

TF> James Cloos <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Some comments:

>> In that case the target mta might offer a cert which the client mta can
>> authenticate by some means other than dane (eg a pool in CApath or the
>> like).  So 'insecurely' is not the right adverb.

TF> The reason it says "insecurely" here is explained in the first couple of
TF> paragraphs in the introduction. Perhaps I should add a back-reference.

I must have forgotten the earlier note by the time I got down to that
section.  Perahps because I had to take some breaks while reading
through it.  A back-reference probably is a good idea.

>> When would/could/should the To-domain not in its entirety match the string
>> used for the A/AAAA and TLSA lookups?

TF> They always match - that is what the text you quoted is supposed to mean.

I always tend to read domain name more like dns zone than like host name.

Even after all these years.

You remind me that I should read it more akin to fully-qualified-domain-name.

>> It seems odd that with is used for some auth but not all.  Perhaps there
>> should be a with keyword for tlsa, too?

TF> Isn't that covered by RFC 3848? ESMTPSA and so forth.

So ESMTPT is for any kind of TLS authentication of the starttls creds?
Either tlsa rr or set of out-of-band-maintained trusted root certs?

My instinct is that it would be useful to know *how* the starttls was
authenticated, not just whether.

(And, yes, by the time I got down that far I see that I did glaze over a
bit.  "when the client successfully authenticated the server." didn't
click as intended, though it is obvious today.  Modulus the above q.)

-JimC
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James Cloos <[email protected]>         OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6
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