In message <[email protected]>, Martin Rex writes:
> Mark Andrews wrote:
> > 
> > Martin Rex writes:
> > > Christian Becker wrote:
> > > > Comparing PKIX and DANE I regularly get asked about the certificate
> > > > revocation in DANE.
> > > 
> > > There is no revocation in DANE.
> > > 
> > > There is only expiration through RRSIG Signature Expiriation
> > > and invalidation through zone key roll-over.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > >
> > > > In that case the revocation process can only be considered
> > > > done when the TTL has elapsed.
> > > 
> > > TTL is meaningless here.  TTL's purpose is a mere guidance for caching,
> > > TTL does not provide any security.  It is an unsigned(!!) DNS record
> > > attribute that an intermediary can make up at will.
> > 
> > TTL is a signed field but instead being a single value it is a
> > range.  A intermediary can change it but the receiver knows what
> > the range is supposed to be and can fix any attempt to set it to a
> > value that is out of range.
> 
> TTL is *NOT* signed.
> 
> While there is an original TTL field that is signed:
>    http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4034#section-3.1.4
> 
> this will not prevent any intermediary (attacker) to produce
> new DNS responses with TTLs less than or equal ot the original
> TTL field whenever necessary within the remaing RRSIG lifetime.
> 
> -Martin

And the sematic difference is what?  When you produce a RRSIG you
are saying to the world "all these TTL values are valid".  It's
just short hand for generating TTL+1 RRSIG covering each possible
value.

Mark
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