6 mar 2013 kl. 20:52 skrev Paul Wouters <[email protected]>:

> On Wed, 6 Mar 2013, Viktor Dukhovni wrote:
> 
>>> But since HASTLS seems dead, please interpret "TLSA record present" as
>>> "don't deliver without TLS"
>>> 
>>> *ducks*
>> 
>> No need to duck
> 
> I was ducking for other people :)
> 
>> , if DNSSEC serves-up usable TLSA records, then
>> indeed Postfix won't deliver without TLS.
> 
> And that is what the majority did not want the specification to mean.
> They wanted the "is TLS mandatory for this connection or not" to be
> signaled with a separate record, the draft had HASTLS. However, that
> draft hasn't moved at all in over a year, and I am personally in favour
> of using the presence of a TLSA record to mean "do not contact without
> TLS".
In SIP we use NAPTR records to indicate choice of transport to contact
a specific domain name. In NAPTR, I can say "I'm only available over
TLS".

Just for the archive...
/O
> 
>> If *all* the records are
>> malformed or use unsupported parameters, then my reading of DANE
>> 6698 is that one should behave as though no TLSA records were
>> present.  This is based on 6698 #4.1:
>> 
>>  If an application receives zero usable certificate associations from
>>  a DNS request or from its cache, it processes TLS in the normal
>>  fashion without any input from the TLSA records.  If an application
>>  receives one or more usable certificate associations, it attempts to
>>  match each certificate association with the TLS server's end entity
>>  certificate until a successful match is found.  During the TLS
>>  handshake, if none of the certificate associations matches the
>>  certificate given by the TLS server, the TLS client MUST abort the
>>  handshake.
>> 
>> Are you saying that an RRset consisting entirely of unusable TLSA
>> records should force TLS (to always fail)?
> 
> That section does not talk about whether or not to use non-TLS. It only
> talks about "if you want to do TLS and you find one or more TLSA
> records". It does not talk about "should we connect using TLS or
> without?"
> 
> Paul
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