On 1 Mar 2016, at 21:37, Geoff Huston wrote: > Sometimes the lies we tell ourselves just get in the way. This is one such > case.
Yup! My view for DNSSEC: Will be deployed in the same speed as new DNS software will include DNSSEC by default and it will be turned on by default. Further, as the validation is done by the ISP, the end user is not involved. My view for IPv6: Each person/organization that is responsible for IP addressing will completely ignore IPv6 (i.e. have it as priority number 7 in a list where only the first three can be dealt with) until the day when suddenly there for that person/organization is zero IPv4 addresses to use. I.e. we have for both IPv6 and DNSSEC passed the point where "normal" advertisements help. Now the best help we get is by just adding time. Sure, we can still inform about both of the above, specifically the 2nd, but will it help? Patrik
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