On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Santiago Estrada Rubio < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> (My apologies for my English: Although I can read English is difficult for > me to write). You're doing great! I would love to be able to contribute to the development of DARCS kernel, > but I'm not a Haskell programmer (Haskell is a nice language but... > perhaps > there are few DARCS contributors because there are few Haskell > programmers). Certainly it is a possibility. I, myself, work in the Microsoft.Net framework and therefore I can only > contribute in the development of a tool. I think all contributions are great and should stand on their merit not because they use technology X or avoid Y. What tool? > > Programmers are comfortable with the command shell, but I work with HTML > Web > designers... after a few unsuccessful attempts to use de command shell, I > taught them to use TortoiseDARCS for windows. I would agree that in windows, darcs is a second class citizen. I believe that until darcs can be used comfortably by the average windows user this will be the case. To me, this means good explorer integration. When the command line version of darcs is "optional" or just plain ignored in windows, then darcs will truely be first class on windows. During two months, Web Designers have been using TortoiseDARCS and I must > say that it works relatively well with DARCS 1 repositories (now > old-fashioned), but it doesn't recognize hashed and DARCS 2 experimental > repositories (TortoiseDarcs marks them as repositories, but commands > fail). > Apart from that, TortoiseDARCS is too oriented to SVN and does not take > the > main characteristics of DARCS, and it seems that the development of > TortoiseDARCS stands in its pilot phase for two years. I'm not sure what happened to the TortoiseDarcs developers, but they do seem to have stopped working on the project which is very unfortunate. They had quite a nice start. In short: it would be great to have a good visual browser for web designers, > translators, etc.. (a Visual Studio and Web Expression plugin would be > great > too...). Yes, I would love to have Visual Studio and darcs integrated. > In relation to the above, I have three questions: > > 1. Does anyone know if there is already a similar development project? There is occasional discussion of creating a "libdarcs", where an API is given and the programmer is able to use existing darcs functionality through a library interface. The first such version of this library would probably be Haskell only and then once it matures an interface to C could be developed. Once we have an interface to C it would open the door to the .NET family of languages (as well as many others including python). It would be valuable if you could tell us which specific parts of the darcs functionality are needed for this darcs explorer project. 2. Does anyone know a better method to develop a DARCS Explorer? (I thought > to directly read the repository, but it would be like partially > reprogramming DARCS kernel). This seems like a lot of effort to put into a bad direction. I would say creating a libdarcs would be a much more fruitful direction. Pretty much everyone agrees that if there is a good example reason to motivate a libdarcs that it would be accepted as a new feature. I think your case, explorer integration on windows, is a good motivating example. Certainly, the same could be done in Haskell or even as part of darcs, but an important detail of creating a good darcs explorer is that whoever does the work gets to choose which languages are used. 3. Does anyone know if there are Schemas, DTDs or similar for xml-output > options? That's an excellent question. I don't know the answer. 4. Does anyone know if there is a list for "tools developers"? There is the darcs wiki: http://wiki.darcs.net/DarcsWiki/FrontPage The #darcs IRC channel on the irc.freenode.net server, and you should probably look at the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list: http://lists.osuosl.org/mailman/listinfo/darcs-devel Good luck, Jason
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