On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Max Battcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> If anything, it makes it all the weirder to me how many people on the GHC
> team seem to be hasty to leave Darcs rather than lend their own skills to
> improve the speed/performance/reliability of Darcs, in whatever manners that
> they can.  It almost seems to be some sort of undercurrent that even some
> GHC developers don't think their compiler is efficient/speedy.  I'm sure
> that's not the case, but it certainly gives the impression from some of the
> text/complaints on the earlier linked sources.


I have a different take on that actually.  The Simons have been great at
giving feedback and detailed bug reports.  Ian is one of the biggest
contributors in Darcs history and is also a GHC dev.  Don Stewart and Duncan
Coutts have both helped with libraries that Darcs uses, (in particular by
improving FPS into Data.ByteString) and both contribute to GHC it appears.
Those are just the people I can think of off the top of my head.  I'm sure
some sleuthing could turn up more examples.  Haskell.org has also funded
development on Darcs via summer of code.

I feel grateful for the level of involvement from GHC and Haskell.org.
Obviously more is better, but I think they have contributed a lot already.


>  The most I can say is that I understand and respect your point of view,
>> and I challenge you, or anyone else that wants to develop on Darcs without
>> learning Haskell, to make your own Darcs compatible program in your favorite
>> programming language.  If the claims people make about wanting to help with
>> Darcs but only if it's written in Java/C++/etc are true then you'll succeed
>> in attractiving devs and it will be a win for everyone.  And I'm sure people
>> here would be happy to answer questions that come up as you're working on
>> such a project.
>>
>
> Maybe on the Wiki someone should run down the list of 3rd Party tools and
> annotate it with the language the tool itself is written in?  Then we might
> have a quick resource for when someone says "I'd like to help Darcs but I
> only know/like Java" and someone could easier point out that, for instance,
> Eclipse Darcs needs Java developers...
>
> In fact, maybe I might take a swing at doing that to the Wiki page myself
> in a day or two.


Please do :)

Jason
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