On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 6:56 AM, johannes hanika <hana...@gmail.com> wrote:
> my 2min-version of the 2nd image: > > https://jo.dreggn.org/neon.jpg > > the neon lights are indeed something that doesn't seem to be covered > well at all by the reference it8 chart. we probably need to somehow > extend the darktable-lut module to read not only well defined colour > patches but also random images (as the basecurve tool does). but even > then it would just be cloning the jpg engine.. which is sub-optimal > imo. i get much improved results when switching on gamut clipping in > the input colour profile module (see xmp embedded in the jpg). i > suspect the camera manufacturers do similar things on chip. > > -jo > > Looks pretty close. I'd say in the case of Fuji an ability to extract a profile from sampling many RAWs+JPGs would probably produce a pretty good result. The colors in the camera jpeg were fairly true to life in this case, except a bit desaturated (they were shot using Provia/STD, I've since learned that many people believe Fuji mixed up the Provia and Astia simulations because Provia seems to have lower saturation than Astia). But as far as the hue goes, it's pretty spot on. Those purple neon lights can very easily turn blue. I too have found that enabling gamut clipping helps with that. > > On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 10:21 PM, J. Liles <malnour...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Here are some of my problem images. > > > > http://www.nevermindhim.com/fuji-xtrans-samples > > > > Also included on the page is my style for denoising. > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 11:04 AM, J. Liles <malnour...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> Group, > >> > >> I've recently acquired a camera with an X-Trans sensor, and have had > >> little trouble generating images that contain areas prone to demosaicing > >> artifacts. > >> > >> Is anyone interested in these? If so, is there a certain place I should > >> host/send them? I have camera generated JPG for comparison along with > the > >> RAF files. > >> > >> In playing around I've discovered a few things: > >> > >> 1) Color smoothing is mandatory, as fine lines and especially specular > >> highlights will always generate nasty color artifacts when using the > baisc > >> demosaicing. Seems like a smarter highlight recovery algorithm could > help > >> identify many of these problem spots. > >> > >> 2) None of the 'denoise' modules have sufficient parameter ranges to > deal > >> well with the X-Trans files. > >> > >> 3) When sufficient denoising is performed to remove maze and color > >> artifacts, the difference between VNG and Markesteijn demosaicing is > >> indiscernible. > >> > >> I have a style preset which can produce images that match the camera > JPGs > >> as far as noise/detail goes (utilizing the equalizer module) at ISO > 3200. > >> > >> Color is another matter, but I've ordered one of the Wolf Faust IT8 > charts > >> to try and make an ICC profile. > >> > >> (I tried making one using the imaging-resource.com multi target studio > >> shots, and while the results were OK, they weren't great). > >> > >> P.S. Is there any plan to support Fuji's RawExposureBias exif tag? It is > >> necessary to display high ISO RAF images at the correct brightnesss. > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > > darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > ___________________________________________________________________________ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
