Hi Christian, regarding 1) that issue is not limited to tagging but general darktable behavior. We are discussing an alternative right now here: https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues/6025
I don't use tagging a lot so I cannot talk about the other points but opening an issue to discuss might be a good idea. Best regards! ---------------------------------------- 28.12.2021 22:56:05 Andreas Schleth <schleth...@web.de>: > Am 28.12.21 um 21:34 schrieb Christian Birzer: > Hi everyone, > > I just started to play around with dt 'behind the scenes' a bit more and > noticed some things that I'd like to discuss - first, to get an idea why > things are like they are and second because probably I'd like to change a few > things to make the usage easier (at least, as I think...). > > Currently, my focus is on the DAM module and specially on the tagging. I come > from LR and use tagging a lot there and find it really easy and > straightforward to use. (I know, dt is not LR but I think, dt should/could be > straightforward and easy to use too). Maybe you've already seen my feature > request on github, but that's an other topic. > > The points I'd like to learn more about: > > 1. when I add a tag using the ctrl-t shortcut (where the input/filter field > in the thumbnail view opens), the tag is added to that image where the mouse > cursor is over. Even if other images are currently selected. When the mouse > is outside the thumbnail view, the selected images are affected. While I find > it very useful to set e.g. star or color ratings by just pointing over a > thumbnail without clicking on it, I find it confusing that I have to take > care of the mouse cursor while adding a tag. Thats not just a one-key > shortcut like a star rating. Maybe it's just me or the view from a newbie, > but I think it could confuse others too...? > > 2. When I click in the tagging panel (tree or list mode, doesn't matter), I > can start to type and an input box below the tree/list opens. It seems to > select the first entry that matches. But I'd at least expect when I hit enter > that the entry is added to the tags of the selected (not mouse-over) images. > But nothing happens. It seems that the filter box that's shown below the > tree/list (where the export-button is) does nothing at all. > > 3. When I enter my tag filter in the text box above the tree/list, the list > is filtered how I'd expect it. But then, I'd expect that I can cursor-down to > select the tag and hit enter to add it. But instead, when I hit the cursor > keys, the selection of the thumbnail is moved. > > 4. When I set the focus in the tag (dictionary) list/tree I can select the > tag I want using the cursor keys and would expect to add it via enter again. > But nothing happens. > > 5. In the tag (dictionary) tree, I'd like to use the right/left cursor keys > to expand/collapse a level by default. I know that this can be achieved by a > new key binding in the css file. I'd just like to know if there are any > benefits from using the default shift-left/right to expand and ignoring the > non-modified cursor keys. > > > So, please don't get me wrong. I don't want to make anything down. Maybe it's > just me who think it could be improved but in fact everything is fine by > design. If so, maybe you can explain the idea behind these things (or point > me to the location of the manual - I didn't find these things explained). > > But maybe it's just because it is "good enough" and nobody had the time to > make it better. In that case, maybe I can help and implement some of my > ideas... > > BTW: I didn't want to open an issue on github for this. Firtly it would have > been a few single issues, and secondly it's not really a bug or a missing > feature. Its just not as smooth as "I" would like to have it ;-) > > And now, thanks for your patience :-) > Christian > > -- > Christian Birzer > christ...@christianbirzer.de > www.ChristianBirzer.de > www.500px.com/ChristianBirzer > www.flickr.com/ChristianBirzer > www.facebook.com/Birzer.Christian > www.instagram.com/birzer.christian > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > Hi Christian, > > I have looked at a few Linux programs for image tagging and I like only one > of them, because it is the only one that is built around tagging. Darktable > is the one tool I warmed to fastest. I like it a lot, but for tagging I use > Kphotoalbum. KPA may have a few deficiencies, but tagging is done just right. > Just as the darkroom is my highlight in DT. > > Have a look at the dedicated tagging dialog there and compare it to any other > tool (digicam, Bibble, DT, rawtherapee, ...). It takes a while to get used to > the tagging system, to decide on a set of categories and to set up the right > layout of the tagging dialog that fits your personal taste but then it is > easy and fast. Tagging 100 images for persons, places, keywords and a few > more categories takes me 10 to 20 minutes depending on how many tags I use > per image. Later it takes me just a few seconds to sift out a certain set of > images among 40-50k. > > If KPA is not in the repos of your distribution, see here: > https://community.kde.org/KPhotoAlbum/build_instructions > > @darktable authors: As tagging seems to be (not yet?) the main focus of DT - > why not have a look across the fence and steal some ideas or at least get a > bit of inspiration? I mean just the functionality of the tagging dialog (not > the way the tags are stored - that is a whole different case). I think > tagging warrants a separate view just as light table and darkroom. > > Best regards, Andreas > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___________________________________________________________________________ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
